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Tropicana TIKIs
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 6:46 PM
I Uploaded the rest of the Tropicana pictures that I scanned. This is All the Pix I have of that job. Enjoy. Well, this is enough for now, I'll load more later, Hopefully I won't have to edit this to get the pix to show. [ Edited by: Benzart on 2005-03-26 07:03 ] |
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DawnTiki
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 7:53 PM
My Gawd! How cool is that! But how did the powers that be, come to the conclusion that changing the theme of the "Tropical" Tropicana Hotel to the "Victorian" Tropicana Hotel makes ANY sense at all? Tragic! [ Edited by: DawnTiki on 2004-01-11 19:57 ] |
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 8:03 PM
Ben, your carvings are simply phenomenal. What most impresses me about your work is how you take a traditional motif and inject life into it. Your carvings don't look like modern interpretations of tiki (and in no way cartoonish) but neither do they look "anthropological," they fall somewhere in between. Most commercial artists are extremely good at what they do but, if I may say so, your stuff goes one step beyond that. Art with a capital "A." I'm glad you found this place because there are plenty of people here who can appreciate what you've created. |
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Kono
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 8:08 PM
Fixed the code for the first one. |
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Kono
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 8:09 PM
The last one: |
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Kono
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 8:24 PM
That piece is pure frizuckin' art! Should be in a gallery somewhere!
Unbelievable. Wish I'd have seen this one in real life: |
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Sun, Jan 11, 2004 10:23 PM
Okay, Ben...you're completely crazy, man. A dying breed! |
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Tiki Diablo
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 12:08 AM
Them logs are to die for, but the carvings are even better. Did the hotel acquire the logs for you? Tell us your memories of that huge job. All us young bucks are striving for a gig like that one day, I know I am. |
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Benzart
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 4:52 AM
Oh yeah, "Them Logs" came from the Tropicana(Now MGM Grand)Golf course.They had been saving them for quite awhile. When I got there theyshowed me this pile of at least 50 dead palms, then they took me to the hotel and fed me, put me up in a room and showed me around their garden (5 acres of Tropical landscaped Island look)and asked "when do you want to get started?". |
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 6:38 AM
The BIG Book! check this thread: |
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PolynesianPop
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 7:57 AM
Yeah Ben, I want to read the Big Book too! Amazing work you've done there - hard to believe that canoe was hollowed out of one log. Keep them pics coming! |
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Benzart
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 12:20 PM
The Canoe, Solid log, yes, I cheated a little since I knew it was for display only If you look on the side about 4 inches from the bottom, there is anoticable long strip glued in. I Plunge cut from the top a rectangle around what is now the inside of the canoe. I stopped about 2 ' from the bottom, not going all the way thru. |
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Benzart
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 1:12 PM
Meanwhile they had set me up a spot under a large Willow tree right at the exit from the Casino to the Gardens.It was really nice. The first 2 days, they had someone watching me all day long making sure I drank Lots of water ( Desert,Heat of 104 degrees)and also to make sure I was not goofing off and that I was really doing what I was paid to do. That was fine with them as long as I kept Puttin'em out.It worked out to a nice balance since a lot of the Trees they had saved were Really not that good and did not deserve any time with.Some carvings came out "On their Own" leaving me shaking my head saying "How did I do that" [ Edited by: Benzart on 2004-01-12 13:15 ] |
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TikiBud
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 3:39 PM
Ben, the detail in your carvings is awsome!Now adding your work, to that of Lakes', BK and the others, you all have lit the perverbial fire under my ass. Don't worry...be Tiki [ Edited by: TikiBud on 2004-01-12 15:39 ] |
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thegarz
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 6:04 PM
These carvings are PHENOMENAL! An inspiration to us all. Stupid questions: When were these carvings done? What became of them? |
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Benzart
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Mon, Jan 12, 2004 9:15 PM
They were done in 1989,90 and 91 for the Tropicana hotel, The "Island of Las Vegas" |
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GECKO
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Tue, Jan 13, 2004 1:06 AM
Aloha braddah Ben, Your work i have no words for my friend. I look towards the day I get a job like that or any of the new generation of carvers. Those pics are the reasons why I do what I do! Please continue. If there is a 2nd BOT, you should be in it. Live Aloha |
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Benzart
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Tue, Jan 13, 2004 5:45 AM
As well as you my friend |
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Benzart
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Tue, Jan 13, 2004 6:21 AM
Here are more of the Tropicana Tikis.. [ Edited by: Benzart 2010-05-23 17:32 ] |
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Benzart
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Thu, Aug 19, 2004 3:55 PM
Aaron's Akua, the Tropicana Hotel, Sold all the tikis several years ago and changed their "Theme" from Tropical to Victorian/Plantation or similar. Don't go there looking for tikis as there are none anymore :( :( [ Edited by: Benzart on 2004-08-19 15:58 ] |
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Aaron's Akua
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Thu, Aug 19, 2004 9:51 PM
Benzart, I went though this string front to back, just mesmerized with the story. What an experience for you. Polynesiac Jim mentioned that you had worked on the Tropicana tikis, but I had no idea of the sheer volume and scope of your work there. Sad ending though... I've never been to the grounds inside the Tropicana, but the front looks... Well, I'm not sure what the style is there now. They killed a beautiful tropical tiki theme, and it's a real shame. Your awesome tiki carving spree is still out there somewhere, though, probably spread out who knows where. The new owners may have no idea who carved them, but I'm sure they appreciate the inticate detail and superb craftsmanship nonetheless. Thanks for sharing... Much in awe of this work. Have any of these guys ever resurfaced? |
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Thu, Aug 19, 2004 9:54 PM
Ben this is the first time i saw this thread, great work on all the stuff, just one word describes it WOW!! |
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Fri, Aug 20, 2004 7:15 AM
Ben, you are a constant inspiration, whether on big or small projects your work is masterful. Please keep showing us more if you have any |
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Aaron's Akua
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Fri, Aug 20, 2004 1:51 PM
Now, this I find amazing. How did you carve such a huge and nicely finished tiki in so little time?
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of creativeness." [ Edited by: Aaron's Akua on 2004-08-20 13:52 ] |
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Fri, Aug 20, 2004 2:12 PM
Wow, Ben. I mean, WOW! Great stuff! I used to do their advertising from about '98 to '01. I always wondered about all the Luau invitations I had to do. And they've gone to a Southern Plantation look? From that? Criminal. |
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Benzart
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Fri, Aug 20, 2004 3:45 PM
Thanks guys. See what you miss if you don't go thru the old threads?? |
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Fri, Aug 20, 2004 4:25 PM
That is really beautiful stuff, Benzart. Like listening to someone like Van Cliburn; you only hear the beauty, you don't hear the decades of hard work it took to get to that level. |
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Aaron's Akua
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Fri, Aug 20, 2004 11:11 PM
OK, Benzart, I have a confession. I've decided TC really sucks. As in "sucks you in". I've been spending my lunch break here at TC just about every day, getting little bits of everyone's story. The people here are just as interesting, if not more, than the art. So, that being said, is there a Part 2 of the "Big Book"? I gather that all of the Tropicana stuff happened between '89 and '91. Now we're in '04 and you're carving all of these intricate small pieces using jeweler's tools & such. I'm having trouble connecting the dots... |
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Sat, Aug 21, 2004 6:35 AM
Wow, Ben... I just found this thread too. Amazed at the magnitude of this job. What a variety of tiki... where did you get the inspiration??? Surely you must have experienced "carver's block"??? Did they allow you to dream them all up on your own, or were there also suggestion as to what they wanted??? I agree with Aaron... this thread isn't over yet. We want you to fill in the blanks, or (in Aaron's words) connect the dots!!! |
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Benzart
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Sat, Aug 21, 2004 8:20 AM
Thanks Guys, the bulk of those were done the first time I was at the Trop which lasted 6 months. I arrived in May and left the end of October. I was so drained when I came Home I couldn't do anything for a month. They gave me total control of what to carve. The first 2 or 3 days they stood around watching to make sure I was cool and then left me alone to do what I wanted. The inspirations came from within and from looking at catalogues and magazines I could find. For the Longhouse, the Archetech had drawn tikis on the poles, but when he saw my work he quickly gave te the lattitude to "do my thing". The Trop's only request was that some of the poles looked authentic And to finish it in 30 days. There were 12 poles. I got them all done in 3 weeks including carving the rafters and a small bridge hand rails. the last week I spent carving the "Welcome to The Island Of Las Vegas" sign on the front entry way beam of the Longhouse. Then it was back to the Palm trunks. Then they let me find a "Good Carving wood" source and I found the truckload of Redwood logs from Crescent City Ca that they bought and had trucked in. [ Edited by: Benzart on 2004-08-21 09:07 ] |
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Aaron's Akua
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Wed, Aug 25, 2004 11:41 PM
That's quite a story, Benzart. I sucks that your injuries took you off of what you enjoy doing the most. And I'm glad that you found a way to do your magic without causing more damage or ruining your back. Your newer small stuff is all the more impressive cause there's no hiding errors. With the big stuff I imagine that a few fudges can easily be unnoticed just due to shear scale. But the close up photos of the small carvings really show some excellent carving and detail. So are you done with surgery? Can you keep on doing what you're doing without more problems to the thumbs? I hope so, cause you seem really happy with what you do, & people are lining up for your pieces. You mentioned working at a "jewelry mfg plant carving wax masters for small gift ware and chess board sets", and it sparked an idea. Have you ever made a tiki chess set? If anyone could do it, it would be you. I could imagine that this would be a real tiki collector's item. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to share your story - it's been really fascinating.
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of creativeness." [ Edited by: Aaron's Akua on 2004-08-26 13:30 ] |
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Benzart
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Sun, Aug 29, 2004 12:34 PM
Aaron you are right about the small stuff showing more imperfections, especially the Macro Photos. You see things there you miss totally with the naked eye..Also with small carvings the scale is so limited that just a small mistake puts the whole carving out of perportion and wasts it . Hopefully I am done with surgery unless they find a better way to repair my old bones. |
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Aaron's Akua
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Sun, Aug 29, 2004 9:42 PM
I checked out the contest post. Super interesting, & it raised a lot of compelling opinions and viewpoints. If anyone decides to carve a tiki chess set, they better be doing it for themselves, or have a rich tiki collector patron to pay for it. |
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Benzart
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Fri, Feb 18, 2005 8:41 PM
Bumpitup |
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Benzart
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Sat, Mar 26, 2005 8:02 AM
For some reason, I have a strong desire to create a Chess set. I think i will use mahogany when I do it. Of course I will finish my carving list first and of course I'll let my doc tell,me when I can get back to carving, BuT, I want a Tiki Chess Set! |
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Sat, Mar 26, 2005 10:52 AM
Do it, do it, do it!! That would be amazingly cool, a true tiki relic. You'd better stop taking carving requests then, else you'll never get it done! :D |
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Sat, Mar 26, 2005 3:31 PM
I can't wait to se the Maori King and Queen, and Bishop, and rook, and knight, etc. If you do this, you know you will have to have resin casts made. |
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Sat, Mar 26, 2005 3:32 PM
2 [ Edited by: Raffertiki on 2005-03-27 04:58 ] |
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Benzart
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Sun, Mar 27, 2005 10:59 AM
Raffertiki, I guess you're right, it's the only way. It will be tough deciding which figures to choose for what piece but I'm sure TC will help. |
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Aaron's Akua
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Sun, Mar 27, 2005 8:16 PM
Lono would make a great castle with the headpiece, maybe Ku for the bishops, Cook Islands for the pawns? Or the whole thing could be tiki moderne, or all Maori.... So many different possibilities. It will be interesting to see what you settle on. 32 pieces could take quite a while, though! You mentioned mahogany, but won't you need say, ebony and ash or maybe something along those color lines? Sounds like an ambitious project, but if anyone could pull it off, it would be you, Ben! :) |
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 1:54 PM
bump bump bump |
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makutiki
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 1:58 PM
How do I get to see the closed down pics? |
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Benzart
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 3:40 PM
They are in the Shutterfly albums I shared at the end of the Carving thread, OR Here they are now |
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 3:56 PM
Ben, I was talking tiki with The Pizz at the tattoo show and he told me a funny story. He had a buddy who hated to valet park. So on a trip to the tropicana he was parking out back and noticed a giant tiki by the dumpsters area. It was way to too tall for him to move on his own, So he ever so gentley bumped it with his truck till it wobbled and fell over in to bed. He drove it back to So Cal hanging out the back. The next week they got 2 more and to this day the carvings reside in his back yard around his pool. |
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Benzart
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 3:59 PM
That is Strange, Definitely get Pix!! |
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Paipo
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 7:21 PM
It's awesome seeing all these pics of "Benzart, the early Years", but also pretty sad that these incredible carvings came at the cost of your health. Those giant redwood guys are just mindblowing. What a shame these tikis weren't all kept together, it must have been quite a sight. |
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 7:55 PM
Ben, I was just curious, how do you feel about the fact that all the tikis that you carved at the Tropicana are gone? Do you get attached to the pieces or is it easy to let go? |
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Wed, Sep 20, 2006 8:10 PM
WOW! Ben, thanks for sharing the photo album! It was mentioned they are no longer there??? Anybody know where they went? Those redwoods could technically last for hundreds of years... I was out in Crescent City, drove the Avenue of Giants in August, incredible & humbling. The health issues you experienced is horrible, but glad to see you back in action creating for those who truly appreciate and value, YOU and your talents! Now, wherez those redwoods hiding??? Flip-flOp-fLipPp... |