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tiki style denny's avoids wrecking ball!!
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/02/2008
sure looks like an old tiki long room though..... |
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beadtiki
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03/02/2008
That is the "historical" Denny's in Ballard (Seattle) - used to be the largest consentration of Norwegians (Scandanavians, in general) in the Seattle area. That Denny's emulates a viking ship - although I guess I could see the Tiki longhouse in it. It's truly a dump! It's been sitting empty for many years - covered in grafitti and concert ads. Now, if they fixed it up and turned it into a Tiki bar or lounge...that would be something! Let's cross our fingers! |
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Tom Slick
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03/02/2008
That is good that they kept it from becoming land for condos...Fu**ing real estate companies are in it for the short haul and instant profits, not worried about preservation of anything from the past...I'm glad they have to spend money to appeal the decision. Only problem I foresee is some disgruntled asshole setting the place on fire(arson) so it HAS to be leveled. Its happened here in California before. The place might be run down right now due to its long abandonment, but imagine the place retrofitted and fixed up?...It would definately be novel...Cheers to the Seattle preservation comittee led by Stephen Lee! |
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03/04/2008
As we all know from the sad example of the Kahiki in Ohio. Being a national historic landmark does not mean any thing except you may have to hire more expensive lawyers before you demolish it and build a Wallgreens in its place. |
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03/12/2008
I was in Ballard all Weekend but somehow managed not to drive past that corner. I hope it can be restored and utilized for something good. I hadn't been back in a couple years and, even though I knew it was happening, seeing the explosion of ugly condos was pretty disturbing. I came across a few articles about the building in the neighborhood paper; if anyone's interested, they're online here: http://www.ballardnewstribune.com/articles/2008/02/25/news/local_news/news02.txt http://www.ballardnewstribune.com/articles/2008/02/21/news/local_news/news01.txt http://www.ballardnewstribune.com/articles/2008/02/25/news/local_news/news01.txt |
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Primo Kimo
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03/20/2008
Yes! I will truly sleep well, at least for, tonight. Good goin' Seattle. |
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03/20/2008
I will assume that you will also complain that housing is too exspensive, not enough is available and be the first to scream if someone tried to keep you from earning a living. My assumption is off of your statement. The developers PAID 12 million for the property and a non-tiki, abandoned building is standing in the way of completing a project. If someone wanted to preserve this why didn't they do it before now? It has been a eye sore and abandoned for years. |
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aku76
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03/23/2008
check out yesterday's USA today on page 12a--there's a photo and article. aloha. |
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Sophista-tiki
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03/23/2008
Some of the statements about the former Denny's property are incorrect. The building was not abandoned for years and was open for business until quite recently. The building was originally built for Manning's a famous Seattle cafeteria with multiple locations. there are piles of brand new multi use condos going up all over the city. This mass destruction of architectural character has changed the look and feel of Seattle in just a few short years. I know I'm not the only one around here who would appreciate a thoughtful re-purposing of a cool mid century building. [ Edited by: Sophista-tiki 2008-03-23 05:08 ] |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/23/2008
..there was another article about it in chicago sun-times yesterday...i'm assuming this is a big deal about what's happening with this building....normally you wouldn't see this much coverage over something like this unless it was important..... As for condos, i understand they have their place, but we have lost so much great architecture over the years to developers that i really can't rally for them.....i'm actually suprised that we have a "deveploper" in the form of bananabob here on t.c.!!! |
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03/23/2008
Okay now let's all settle down and celebrate a victory for saving this little piece of Americana but let's not go eating our own in the process. Bananabobs was just pointing out some business facts to those of us wh are not in the biz. I appreciate everyone's passion but let's stick together, n'kay? After all if anything can save the sructure long-term it will be a developer who is will to take a chance on turning the building into a new tiki bar in Seattle (we can only hope). It's Easter let us all be of good cheer and love today! |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/23/2008
...yeah....good luck with that!! ...happy easter!! |
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Hiphipahula
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03/23/2008
Cheers to all in Seattle! It feels great to know that community involvement strong activist groups DO & CAN make the difference! |
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mymotiki
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03/23/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:52 ] |
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Sophista-tiki
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03/23/2008
Hey, it would make a great building to house Polynesia Americana. But I dont have 12 million to buy it. nor do I have the aditional funds to build out a museum space and run the joint. considering the current economy it might not be the best time to invest in a new museum. but iffn you wanna see the mission statement and floor plans etc. for Poloynesia Amerivcana check out the lengthy discussion here in General Tiki or look on http://www.myspace.com/polynesiamericana . [ Edited by: Sophista-tiki 2008-03-23 15:44 ] |
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mymotiki
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03/23/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:53 ] |
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Tom Slick
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03/24/2008
I don't want to start a piss match on TC on something so off topic, but let me be brief as possible over some examples that need to be aired... I also didn't want to use my "Trump" card, but look at all the developers that rushed in to the lower 9th ward in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. Think they were there to aid and rebuild the structures lost/damaged for the residents? hah......Offers were flying into all of the insurance companies and families to buy up all the wrecked properties for pennies on the dollar, to be redeveloped into a wealthy community, at least that was the plan. As you can tell, I'm a preservationist and I don't care for the overpopulation/overdevelopment of any city, and lets be truthful...Developers only interest are "How much are we taking home on this deal?" Like I stated above...Good For Mr. Lee and his actions to save the place. |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/24/2008
go get em' tom!!...give em both barrels!!! |
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msteeln
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03/24/2008
This building needs to go. To have a stand off about a structure that no longer has anything to offer just dilutes the efforts of those striving to save things that truly deserve it. |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/25/2008
gee.....that will convince us to change our minds! ... ..thanks for sharing!!! |
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msteeln
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03/25/2008
RRRRRRRR [ Edited by: msteeln 2008-03-24 18:18 ] |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/25/2008
..i heard your opinion and you are more than welcome to express it here...i just may not agree with it. - That's MY opinion...can you handle that truth??...besides, now that you joined our happy little tiki forum, i expect to see more than 2 posts from you and hopefully about something that actually pertains more to why we are here....like tiki for example??!!....hopefully we will get a proper introduction from you if you have not posted one already.... |
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03/25/2008
Oops - looks like I'm losing it. |
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msteeln
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03/25/2008
Thanx, but I'll pass on your angry gauntlet of expectations, hoping the hangover passes quickly and you return to your normally sweet as pie 1st drink self. Cheers! |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/25/2008
.. gee.....i guess that sounds like your final word on the subject......GOOD!! that means we won't be hearing anymore from you then!! ..now stop hijacking my thread with your nonsense.....and in case you are not aware of who i am, i'm the resident tiki central satan himself!!...or did you not notice where i was located at on the left hand sidebar......"HELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
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mymotiki
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03/25/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:53 ] |
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msteeln
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03/25/2008
Damn Tips, from hell or heck, I thot you were a... gurl! |
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03/25/2008
You might wanna learn to spell! Now there's a thot! |
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mymotiki
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03/25/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:53 ] |
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beadtiki
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03/25/2008
Oops sis, you forgot to read the post - Bamboo was referring to the newbie - not you! Never get into an argument before you go to work either - makes for bad communications with your patients! LOL |
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mymotiki
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03/26/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:54 ] |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/26/2008
..spoken like a true healer!! |
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beadtiki
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03/26/2008
Tipsy, don't be a dick - she's not the doctor for pete's sake. I'm sure you're just a prince with everyone you meet too - which is evidenced right here in the forums. |
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thefuzz
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03/26/2008
I don't know if anyone mentioned this before, but, this building wasn't meant to look like a tiki long house, but as a Viking boat! The area is a heavily Nordic population zone in the 20's-now....well a little less now being that all the relatives are selling out to developers. |
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beadtiki
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03/26/2008
I posted that a while ago - I thought the same thing. Ya Sure Yabetcha! LOL |
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mymotiki
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03/26/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:54 ] |
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msteeln
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03/26/2008
Now that we're in calmer waters again, let me clarify that I'd too would love to see the Viking styled building transformed into exactly what we'd all dig. But the realistic possibilities this would ever happen are obviously less than slim to say the least. If Denny's couldn't justify staying, then there's probably more negatives to the story than we know, that would kill most any chances to save her no matter who jumped in. Too bad. |
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Tipsy McStagger
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03/26/2008
..you're just saying that to make me feel good.... |
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beadtiki
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03/26/2008
Absolutely. Now, let's get back on-topic |
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TorchGuy
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04/26/2008
Denny's couldn't "not justify staying" - They were offered 12 million! It was a nice, if very plain internally, Denny's until very recently. I, too, would like it to become something more, as Seattle is quickly turning all its neighborhoods into condo castles. Ballard, I'm sure, could use somne condominium towers... SOME. Not one on every lot. I, for one, hope residents save this place and do something with it. Not necessarily something tiki, but something nice. A Ballard history center maybe? Many residents are still very proud of their heritage, and many (judging by the letters I see in the paper) aren't happy about the condo flood. Not that the individuals can do much when their landlords sell in a heartbeat and evict them. Yes, some individuals do sell, for many different reasons. I'm not going hard-edged here, no "stop them all" or "bring them all> There's a middle ground. |
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mymotiki
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04/26/2008
. [ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:56 ] |
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Tipsy McStagger
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04/27/2008
ha!..so maybe i was correct after all in saying this was a polynesian style building at the beginning off the post.... |
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mymotiki
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04/27/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:56 ] |
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Tipsy McStagger
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04/27/2008
...hmmm...it sounds like the same cancer that afflicts most urban areas these days......"let's all rush to be like everyone else while at the same time trying to assert our individuality!!" ...now- do any of these folks you talk to have any pics of what the place looked like back in the day??? and where are all the decorations from the interior?? this sounds like another good tiki mystery about to unravel......(i know i'm stating this as if you had all the answers already...but right now you're all we got!!!) LOL [ Edited by: Tipsy McStagger 2008-04-26 22:38 ] |
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TorchGuy
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04/27/2008
I could try to ask around... I always thought it had to be tiki design (though if I had heard the Viking ship idea, I would have accepted it). I never saw it before the Denny's diner-style remodel (which was a lot softer here than most Denny's locations - no quilted aluminum wall, no WurliTzer 1015 jukebox replica, just a generic, bland remodel with vaguely 50s colors). It DOES look like it's been abandoned for a decade. It's boarded up and absolutely covered in graffiti - big, colorful mural tags and lots of small, scribbled ones. But it's only been closed a few months, it simply got slammed with tagging. |
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05/12/2008
"I spoke to an elderly Ballardite and the way it was, mannings cafeteria owners went totally against the norm and the building was all polynesian design and decor and nobody in Ballard liked it. So, when people asked about it, they were told it was a viking ship or an M for mannings cafeteria. It was built around 1958-1961." mymotiki I always thought the Ballard Denny's looked somewhat Polynesian, but I could also see elements of traditional Skandahoovian design in it. A few years back I wrote Seattle pop culture historian Clark Humphrey***** and asked. He told me it had been a Manning's and had never been a Polynesian place. Some consideration of traditional Nordic design gives one an idea for the inspiration of the Ballard Manning's.
And now for something really beautiful...
By the time The Manning's was a Denny's almost all the really swell aspects of it were gone. But there was a bar there, so you could have beer with your pie. Don't knock it til yuh've tried it. *****Clark Humphrey is the author of Vanishing Seattle a swell book full of pictures of long gone Seattle places, objects, and people. |
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mymotiki
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05/12/2008
[ Edited by: mymotiki 2008-06-14 20:57 ] |
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bigbrotiki
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05/12/2008
Yeah, that interior looks great. Sigh, why can't things (SOME at least) just stay the way they originally were.... |