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So, without further ado, here we will post everything that we know it is NOT Tiki in style but in spirit, meaning, everything that is supposed to be primitive but is in fact made of plastic (or any material) mass produced in a factory for a developed country. Buildings too. Could be Native American Pop, Egyptian Pop, African Pop, Greek Pop or anything you find and want to share. |
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Whoaa, not so fast, young man! :wink: Let's take Greek and Egyptian arts out of that equation, they were regarded as the classic cultures, not "primitive" ones. And for further clarification of what was what in mid-century design: Chinese and Asian art fell under "Exotica". German under kitsch. So as valid sources for pop primitivism (other than Polynesian and Oceanic art) we have: African, Pre-Columbian, North-American Indian, and Eskimo art. Their mid-century application as decor and utilitarian objects is what this thread shall be about. But only if they relate to the spirit of classic Tiki and Tiki Modern. Examples: These two modern primitive (African-inspired) "Ran Su" masks: Postcard of rendering of Aztec Motel, Anaheim: Detail of pool statue at Aztec Motel: American Indian dishware by Sascha Brastoff: |
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Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:12 PM
...and of course, places like Arturo's: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=31258&forum=2 |
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Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:24 PM
I visited the home of Dr. Lonnie Hammergren this weekend in Las Vegas. He is a avid collector and has various styles of primitive art. javascript:popup(); |
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Tue, Feb 24, 2009 7:44 PM
I don't have any pictures of my own, and don't want to steel anyone else's, but the Mayan Theatre in downtown LA would be a great example. |
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Tue, Feb 24, 2009 8:37 PM
Whoaa! :o Great pictures! Definition of Primitive culture found in Wikipedia: In older anthropology texts and discussions, a primitive culture is one that lacks major signs of economic development or modernity. ... For example, Mayans are considered "the Greek of the Caribbean" developed an amazing culture with refined abstract thinking, yet never "discovered" the wheel or harvesting... and where cannibals. |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 10:13 AM
Atlante Spanish-Tolteca. You should try the Gran Licor Tolteca it contains. Made in Mallorca. |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 11:12 AM
From this thread: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=31258&forum=2&6
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 11:19 AM
The real ones... |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 11:41 AM
Wasn't sure where to post this little guy, so I decided to try him here. An interesting tiki-like mug from the Churrascaria Gruta in San Jose Dos Campos, Brazil. Not sure of the origins of this art from? DC |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 12:25 PM
Cool DC!!! That is bizarre! Churrasquerias are a type of Brazilian grill. |
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 10:25 PM
More liquor bottle primitive art (and other items):
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Thu, Feb 26, 2009 11:04 PM
She is the greatest- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r5zMmlAwts&feature=related This classic female idolater has her place here too, then: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ker24VSMImo&feature=PlayList&p=623FC3943EC53860&index=1 |
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Fri, Feb 27, 2009 2:42 AM
Ah, the Aztec Motel. That was the motel of choice for my my parents when we made our annual pilgrimages to Southern California for a theme park vacation. I have many fond memories of that place, although it wasn't quite as cool as in those artist renderings. I never saw any statues, and the pool area wasn't that swanky, at least when I went there, but they had a really cool bowling alley on the premises. The hotel and bowling alley were still around early to mid 1990's. I went searching for the Aztec in the late 1990's, and it was gone. Coco Loco and I even cruised around that area last year before Tiki Oasis. Now it's a strip mall or something. It was actually located on Beach Blvd in Buena Park, one block from Knott's Berry Farm. Thanks for posting the cool postcard, Sven! |
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Fri, Feb 27, 2009 9:27 AM
Thank you. All in natural light. After so many years of being in the business of lighting for film, I can "see the light". |
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Fri, Feb 27, 2009 10:25 AM
Sven, I bet you got those bottles during your liquor store trolling days with Beachbum! DC |
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Fri, Feb 27, 2009 10:33 AM
Aaah, the golden days of liquor store archeology in the mid 90s, when there were still some old mom & pop liquor stores where you could dig for the dusty, forgotten back-shelf bottles and find Don The Beachcomber mixes and other unwanted relics! |
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Sun, Mar 1, 2009 6:18 AM
Hotel Don Pancho. |
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Sat, Mar 7, 2009 9:07 AM
Really dig your cabinets there BigBro...nice. Here is a piece that my mother in-law gave to me about 10 years back. It's a hand made brass platter with a stone mosaic layer on it...it could use a cleaning. I think she told me that she brought it in a NY auction house sometime in the late 60's. I would have to check with her again to verify that...but anyway, It seems to fit into this Pop Primitive thread here. I have always liked this platter...it looks a little African(?) to me in a Modern kind of way :) |
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Mon, Mar 9, 2009 1:09 PM
Bigbro, is this Vudu bottle from Spain? Some images from a zoo near Cadiz. Cool idols fountains to cool-down visitors |
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Tue, Mar 24, 2009 9:29 AM
Mask time. Bigbro maybe you can give the yes or no if these qualify as pop-primitive. First up a set of masks from California Crafts. |
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Tue, Mar 24, 2009 10:29 AM
Love this guy!: He and his pardner are definitely Tiki Modern, which is a part of pop primitivism. I mostly want to reserve this thread for non-Oceanic/Tiki art though, like modernist African and Pre-Columbian pop, which would otherwise find no place here on TC.
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Mini forks made in Mexico... |
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Thu, Apr 9, 2009 12:18 AM
Indeed! The Mayan is among my most favorite buildings in Los Angeles. I am glad I got to squeeze two small photos from it into Tiki Modern. If someone would give me a grip truck and a lighting crew, I could spend a whole week shooting the interior of this most amazing "Mayan Revival" Temple, which has remained pretty much unaltered since it was built in 1927. Below are some photos from different time periods that only cover a small portion of its splendor: Part of the proscenium: Stairs on the upper floor: Stairs detail: Detail of the auditorium ceiling: This is the only photo that conveys a sense of the size of the auditorium and its rich decorations This text describes its history (not really the "Why"):
Inside, every square inch of the decor is fantastical Mayan Revival, from the floor paving to the furniture and fixtures. The entry lobby is a hall of Inscriptions and is coated with hieroglyphics. The foyer is the Hall of Feathered Serpents, In the auditorium, the huge central, polychromed plaster and metal chandelier is a replica of an Aztec calendar stone. The original painted fire safety curtain depicted Mayan jungles and temples, which completed the decorative scheme of the theatre. The Mayan Theatre, which opened with 1,491 seats, was at first a legitimate theatre, then it showed second run movies. In the 1940's, the theatre was a burlesque house and it is rumored that in 1948 a young Marilyn Monroe appeared here. By the end of the decade it tried arthouse films. From March 3rd 1950, the Mayan was the crown jewel of Francisco Fouce's chain of Mexican film venues and the first presentation was - 'Direct from Buenos Aires' one of Latin America's biggest stars Libertad Lamarque, 'live on stage and on the screen'. The theatre became an adult porn theatre in the early 1970's (some of the films were shot in the basement of the theatre) and around 1977 it was converted into a triple-screen theatre, still screening adult movies. The auditorium has now been de-tripled and the current nightclub use, replete with the theatre's original exotic Mayan interior, opened February 1990 and renamed The Mayan. |
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Tue, Apr 14, 2009 10:22 AM
Amazing Bigbro! Thanks for sharing... |
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Mon, Jun 8, 2009 11:49 AM
"monos" |
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Wed, Jun 17, 2009 2:38 PM
According to BabelFish (Spanish to English): Wood statuette, call monkeys representing a human being |
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Wed, Jan 13, 2010 2:38 PM
Canibalitos = Cute cannibals |
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Wed, Jan 13, 2010 4:00 PM
How about Native American pop primitivism ? Cigar store Indians might be a stretch since they're not really based on Native American art. But like Tikis they are kitchy carvings representing a "primitive" culture. There's also the Wigwam chain of motels that might qualify.... But maybe a teepee isn't so much art as it is a functional design. Totem poles would be the obvious choice but I don't have any pop culture examples at hand. I'll add it to my list of things to do. :) [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2010-01-13 17:09 ] |
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Mon, Jan 18, 2010 10:45 PM
Hey JOHN-O, cool pictures!
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Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:54 AM
From the "Acapulco" restaurant in the beachfront of Alicante, Spain. |
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Sat, Jan 30, 2010 11:33 PM
Found this hardcover book today: and here's the paperback version of a mystery that takes place in the Yucatan: |
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Thu, May 13, 2010 12:04 PM
Toltec atlante mug |
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Sun, May 16, 2010 1:50 PM
Found this Tequila bottle in El Rastro. |
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Sun, May 16, 2010 9:04 PM
Wow!! I used to love going to the Mayan for raves back in the glorious 80s! |
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Mon, Jun 7, 2010 11:06 PM
Jaguar painting and electric meter |
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Tue, Jan 18, 2011 3:40 AM
I have some vintage aloha shirts with pre Hispanic inspired designs. |