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1961surf
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Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:27 AM
Not my auction , but well worth mentioning.These are the original 12" LUAU carvings that [ Edited by: 1961surf 2009-08-23 22:00 ] [ Edited by: Tikiwahine - to add 'ebay' to the title - 2009-08-30 12:49 ] |
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PiPhiRho
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Sun, Aug 23, 2009 3:28 PM
Hmmm, that's an interesting variation on the cannibal tiki trio. Includes tasting and, ah... playing with your food? Doggie style? |
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1961surf
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Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:56 PM
If these statues could talk, they would have enough material to write a script. [ Edited by: 1961surf 2009-08-24 12:11 ] |
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Tobor64
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Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:19 PM
Man, those are spectacular! What I wouldn't give to win that auction. Thanks for posting! |
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:39 AM
I was asked about these earlier, and this is my subjective assessment of these guys: These are actually 2 sets of the same 2 Cannibal Carving characters ( the "Caught" and the "Eater"), but in different styles -the third one, the "Full belly" guy, is missing in each set. The two front ones are close copies of the Don The Beachcomber cannibals, the back two are copies of the Marquesan (not Maori) tourist style that O.A. has an example off. All four are in -my opinion- modern Asian knock offs. They didn't bother with copying the "full" guy because he's not as attractive. I must ad that I don't think they are offered under false pretense, the seller probably bought them with that erroneous information of origin and is merely passing it on. |
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1961surf
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 2:25 PM
Really knock offs Sven ?? I am waiting to hear back from seller after I left him a message |
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bigbrotiki
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM
As I said, I don't think he knows, so what can he say. |
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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 3:32 PM
I'm a bit skeptical as well. You might try emailing Bob & Leroy at OA. As I recall, they're pretty knowledgeable about the decor that was at the original Beverly Hills Luau and own some of it in their shop. |
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 3:56 PM
If someone is going to check into these cannibals with OA, can someone ask about the mouths? Mine has a very small gap/slit all the way across that will fit a sheet of paper or post card in it. And it was done when it was made. I posted pictures in Tiki Finds back in December and I'm just curious. Sven, have you seen them with this slit? |
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 6:08 PM
Speaking of Asian knock-offs, here is a 3 foot high carving that looks very much like the "Sven-Tiki" mug. |
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bigbrotiki
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:06 PM
Never seen the slit in the mouth, that one looks rather recent too. 1.) The original Don The Beachcomber style: 2.) The Steve Crane Luau and Kon Tiki style: 3.) The Tahitian tourist Tiki style (seen at O.A.): 4.) The "Asian eyes mistake" Bora Bora post style: The last ones grew out of the sloppy rendering done of Don's Tikis done on the original Don the Beachcomber menu, which failed to recognize the Marquesan "wrap around eyes": ... a mistake which was perpetuated by the Luau: The Mai Kai artist did more justice to the Don style cannibals: But the graphic history of the cannibals is another story. Back to the CARVINGS: in his home in Encino: ...and used them as POSTS in his bars in Chicago: ...and Waikiki: Darn....sorry, gotta go to work, -to be continued |
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:44 PM
I don't recall Sven ever looking like that when he posed for me. After a few Mai Tais however..... :D So, should I be flattered or just annoyed? If they were really trying to knock off the Sven-Tiki, they did a suck-ass job. |
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Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:51 PM
Wow, thanks for the info, Sven. So, as knock-offs, what do you think these pieces are worth? Whatever the outcome, I still think they look cool. |
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1961surf
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 8:37 AM
They are COOL , however if they were not in the original Luau , they are not $3000 COOL. |
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Queen Kamehameha
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:33 PM
So the bidding is up to 1495.00 interesting. Are they worth 1495.00 fake or does someone think they are real? Amy |
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Or Got Rum?
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:54 PM
Or someone "Pumping Up The Volume"... |
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1961surf
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39 PM
I was going to buy these, but the owner has not returned my last call, and Sven has [ Edited by: 1961surf 2009-08-25 16:49 ] |
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:34 PM
Sven, Thanks for that great collection of cannibals. Nice to see all of the different styles put together like that. 1961 Surf, Looking forward to what you find out about these. DC |
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1961surf
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:11 PM
Thanks DC .Well I can not seem to get a returned telephone call back from this guy, Hi Bill....thank you for following up. I have been collecting Hawaiiana & tiki's for about thirty years and asked a few friends in the biz to verify these pieces.They seem to think they are the real deal as do I so I will let the auction run. I have had three offers to end the auction early for $1200 - $1700 so there are at least a few others who think they are the real deal. Thanks again for your input, very much appreciated.Have a wonderful evening. Aloha & Mahalo, Robert Hayes Without any documentation or photos from the Luau depicting these exact carvings, I would not think his sources have any real factual information to back up his claim..... all hear say .I know this guy is a big surf and Hawaiian collector and probably has $20,000 worth of stuff on ebay right now, however that doesn't have any bearing on the authenticity of these carvings. [ Edited by: 1961surf 2009-12-02 16:58 ] |
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Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:43 PM
I stay away from private bidder auctions.....Ebay already scrambles and * out the names, so whats the point? I wouldnt doubt if this auction is legit, that KC is on top of this auction, with that type of action... :P |
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1961surf
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Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:59 PM
After Contacting Bob at Oceanic , here is what he had to say . Kia Orana Bill: One cannot be sure of their authenticity and we doubt if anyone can prove they were used at the Luau. Maybe leftovers from the new Luau or Trader Vic's as both have Bali carvings. We think it would be a gamble-----but then who really know's if they are authentic. I would think if anyone would know the answers, or have some pictures of interior shots |
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1961surf
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Fri, Aug 28, 2009 8:45 AM
Looks like the seller ended auction early for some reason . |
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Tiki Lee's
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Sat, Sep 5, 2009 10:39 PM
Just to add to the "History Lesson" portion of this thread, here's some photos of the cannibals as pedastle totems. I got these years ago, and the consensus was that they were from O.A., but no one was sure if they were ever used in a bar or restaraunt. Mahaloz! |
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1961surf
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Sun, Sep 6, 2009 3:16 PM
Very nice carved posts Tiki Lee |
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1961surf
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Wed, Dec 2, 2009 4:59 PM
Looks what's listed back on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230405169319&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT |
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