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Reference Books for Oceanic Carving Inspiration.
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Sun, Oct 21, 2007 5:19 PM
Here are mine, I thought I'd start this after seeing Tikimecula's reply in another thread. After he showed his bookshelf I bought a few of the ones he had. I spend way too much on books. Please add to this with your own collections so I can spend some more. Hope this helps somebody. |
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tikimecula
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Sun, Oct 21, 2007 6:03 PM
Wow Johnny, Nice Library you have there. Here are mine, I have actually added a few since this pic was taken. I get a pic up of the others also. |
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Mon, Oct 22, 2007 5:20 PM
Holy cats...what a great collection of reference material....and I thought I was getting into |
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tikidreams
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Tue, Oct 23, 2007 5:54 AM
This is a great idea for a thread. You can always find something interesting to look up. [ Edited by: tikidreams 2007-10-23 06:01 ] |
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Tue, Oct 23, 2007 11:20 AM
It was tikimecula's photo posting in the first thread that got me started. Since that posting I've acquired 40+ books. But I find several aren't worth the trouble. I started a thread for source material book reviews, but there was no interest. |
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Paipo
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Tue, Oct 23, 2007 1:52 PM
griffithpark, you probably would have got a better response here than in "General Tiki", as I doubt very many non-carvers/artists collect books on Oceanic art with the same passion we do. Books to me are the fuel for my creative engine. More recently I have been building a digital library from scans, ebay listings, museums and tribal arts sites - almost 4,500 images now. It's a great way to get source pics of pieces you may otherwise never see, but nothing beats having a full page plate in a book with the accompanying text - except viewing the real thing in a museum or collection. |
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griffithpark
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Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:47 AM
Like you, I find the material very inspirational. This weeekend I'm starting on my first Oceanic fishing lures. If I hadn't seen it in a book... Anyone have a recommendation for a book on canoe-building? |
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Paipo
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Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:40 PM
I can see 3 on the left of JP's 2nd pic that may help you...which reminds me, if you're reading this Johnny - what's the Vaka Moana book like? I really wish I could've got up to Auckland to see the exhibition. From a carver's viewpoint, what's it like as a resource book? |
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benella
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Fri, Oct 26, 2007 4:16 AM
Not a lot but kind of very hard to find in France :) Mahalo, Ben. |
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tikidreams
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Fri, Oct 26, 2007 8:02 AM
psst.. ben, amazon.com.. :wink: |
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Paipo
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Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:51 AM
I thought books on Oceanic art would be common there? Paris has always been one of the great collecting centres of the world, and was a birthplace of the appreciation of the primitive (as art) in modern art. Sotheby's and Christie's hold their major Oceanic and African sales in Paris and most of the world record prices have been set there. There must be some great finds lurking in some of the bookshops (like auction catalogues!), especially considering France's long involvement in the Pacific. I finally got some legible pics of my books. The next shelf up has more books on art, crafts, carving, jade and NZ/Pacific history, but this is the most "tiki" shelf. |
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tikifreak1
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Sat, Oct 27, 2007 7:27 AM
Here is the start of my collection. |
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tikimecula
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Mon, May 19, 2008 7:09 PM
Thought i would Bump this up, and update. Here is an updated pic of my bookshelf.
Also I got a GREAT new book the other day and thought i would share. Oceanic Art, By Kaeppler, Kaufmann & Newton Heres some of the 900+ images
It's a bit on the high side $ wise, but worth it for a great Oceanic Art resource book. [ Edited by: Tikimecula 2008-05-19 19:13 ] |
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pdrake
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Mon, May 19, 2008 7:12 PM
wow, i need to start shopping more. i only have about 4 or 5 right now. my BOT was stolen. i still get a lot of great stuff from the web, too. thanks you guys. |
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Mon, May 19, 2008 9:09 PM
Awesome thread! I'm just beginning to add to my library and would very much appreciate hearing what TCers/carvers ideas are on which books are must haves. Mahalo |
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Tamapoutini
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Mon, May 19, 2008 9:52 PM
On a bookshelf somewhere in the South Pacific: A simple 'rotate anti-clockwise' might help our viewers folks.. :lol: *Pdrake: note the little red book in first pic. The TePapa-press one you have coming in the post? (please forgive the odd random non-tiki publication) T :) |
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Tue, May 20, 2008 12:04 AM
The "Phallic Worship" one looks like an interesting read. :o |
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Tamapoutini
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Tue, May 20, 2008 12:09 AM
oops, how did that get in there..? must be one of MrsTamas.. :lol: |
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El Buho
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Tue, May 20, 2008 12:09 AM
Oh gee, amazing libraries you own... I was stupid enough to think that there wouldn't be so much books on that topic. |
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Tamapoutini
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Tue, May 20, 2008 1:46 AM
This book cant be seen very well above and really deserves a mention of its own. Im sure Ive told a few of you Chizzlers about it before but here it is again - with a few piccies to back up my claims. Its highly contemporary work, so I hope no-one minds me adding to the Oceanic Art bookshelf? But this is what todays Tohunga-whakairo/'Master' carvers are doing with inspiration drawn from the old works. A must-have in my opinion if simply to see examples of what heights can and are being attained. WARNING: a strong sense of self-belief/confidence in ones OWN carving work is important before viewing these taonga: I wonder how many aspiring carvers have taken one look and thrown down their own chisels as a lost cause..?
And on it goes.. weapons, masks, figures, bailers, lintels. Head-reeling stuff, some of the figures 6-7'+. This book never fails to blow my poor wee mind. Only featuring the work of these two guys. 188pages, Awesome photography throughout. Buy it, support them, and do yourself a favour while you're at it! (printed in China, terrific..) T :) [ Edited by: Tamapoutini 2008-05-20 01:50 ] |
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Tamapoutini
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Wed, Jun 18, 2008 2:51 PM
HELP!! I just recieved an ex-library copy of 'Hawaiian Sculpture' by J Halley Cox: ..but some buggers' gone and torn out page75/6! Argh, hate that! Im assuming there was something very groovy on one side and I want to know what!!?? - if anyone has a copy could you please post a pic here so I can see what Im missing..? Cheers |
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tikifreak1
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Wed, Jun 18, 2008 3:13 PM
Here you go Tama!!! Page 75 Page 76 |
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Tamapoutini
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Wed, Jun 18, 2008 4:04 PM
Thank TFreak, much appreciated! :) (goddam no-good, awesome double-pic, page-tearin' thief #@%*!..) :x |
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Wed, Jun 18, 2008 6:18 PM
Tama, that contemporary Maori art book would be Soaked in Drool by the first day, Awesome stuff. I've seen some of that work from those 2 masters and it is truly Bind boggling how they "Stretch" the wood they use. |
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benella
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:53 AM
WOW Tama ! God bless you ! I was searching for several weeks some pix of maori carvings like the first pix that is very contemporary ! Yipee ! I saw one like this in trader vics London but didn't take enough pix. I am going to buy this book with no delay :wink: Happy happy happy. Benjamin. |
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Tamapoutini
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:10 AM
Nice one Benjamin! The hands on that figure youre standing with sure look like the work of Roi & Todd - perhaps one of their earlier works or maybe by someone they studied with/under? I know theyve sold at an amazing gallery in Canada so I guess getting them around the globe is no obstacle. Maybe you could post your impressions/review of the book here if you buy it. Im sure you wont be disappointed. |
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Traderbob
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 12:47 PM
Tama, tikifreak1, the "hawaiian sculpture" book looks interesting. Does it have many pics of traditional hawaiian tikis like the ku above ? For the Germans/Euros here: |
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tikifreak1
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:07 PM
Traderbob, here is a link I found so you can preview the book before to make sure you like it. The book Tama has I believe is the original and I have the revised (but both the same). I think the book you mentioned is a mix of oceanic art (not just Hawaiian) but not sure??? Hope this helps. Somebody else might be able to give you more info. I just noticed it is not the whole book, but it does have more of the carvings you are looking for!!!! Craig [ Edited by: tikifreak1 2008-06-19 13:10 ] |
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Traderbob
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 1:29 PM
Thanks for the link tikifreak, I didn't know they had these kinds of books on display there. Very cool, the last time I had a look there I found old nautical/navigation stuff... I think that's what I'm looking for. Cheers, Bobo |
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Paipo
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 2:49 PM
Wow, this must be "Rip off a kiwi carver" week on TC.... |
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pdrake
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 5:11 PM
i doubt it was the carvers themselves. more than likely it was the importer. sheesh, there's more than enough traditional pieces to copy from. why on earth would someone copy a modern piece with a current carver? leroy and bob did it right. |
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tikifreak1
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Thu, Jun 19, 2008 6:36 PM
Ohhhh yeah, Traderbob. Yes the Oceanic Art book I think you are talking about is great. It has a lot of PNG stuff in it, but is does have smaller sections from different places. A bunch of people have it in there shelves on the first page (mine is on the table (top left corner). Craig |
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JohnnyP
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Wed, Aug 6, 2008 10:30 AM
Here is a book on scrimshaw and how to do it. The book was written in era before preserving our natural resources became a world priority. Though the book disturbingly uses ivory for the examples and demonstrating carving work it plainly states the techniques can be used on other materials like beef bones and even plexiglass. |
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Wed, Aug 6, 2008 7:33 PM
There is another example of Hawaiian sculpture that was omitted from that book. But not torn out just not included in even the revised edition. This little guy didn't make the book. I have another picture somewhere I'll try and post it here when I find it. Nice book collection JohnnyP, My collection seems so sad now. |
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Paipo
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Wed, Aug 6, 2008 8:22 PM
There's a whole page on that little fella - had it bookmarked for a while: |
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tikimecula
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Tue, Aug 19, 2008 2:45 PM
Here's another book to put on your list. Good stuff! Some items i had not seen before in my other books. Full page color pics also. Book measures 9"x12" |
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hiltiki
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Tue, Aug 19, 2008 9:22 PM
Here is a book I bought at the swap meet a while back for $1.00.
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benella
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Tue, Aug 26, 2008 1:18 AM
I've waited so long for that book and it arrived yesterday with some bills ! This book is a "must have". Benjamin. |
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JohnnyP
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Tue, Sep 16, 2008 4:47 PM
Similar to W. Ben Hunt's "Lets whittle" in the Book of Tiki, this is a carving book that has some reference to tikis. Not much of a help to learn to carve, more on the theory of carving, but interesting for the tiki connection. |
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kiwishaman
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Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:37 PM
bumpity bump |
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Grapa-RuHa
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Sun, Nov 2, 2008 8:06 AM
Mahalo, |
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Gooberfreek
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Fri, Jan 30, 2009 11:46 AM
Well here are books so far... |
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Creative Chimp
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Tue, Apr 14, 2009 4:34 PM
i have been collecting for a few months and have found these books helpful in art styles by island groups as well as general history of the migration of people through the islands. the one i like a lot is "island ancestors". hope this helps anybody out there in tiki land. also found that buying used books on amazon in most cases was cheaper than buying on ebay. It goes without saying to all out in tiki land new in their quest for knowledge....buy "the book of Tiki" FIRST!! [ Edited by: Creative Chimp 2009-04-15 08:22 ] |
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Zeta
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Sat, Feb 6, 2010 9:22 PM
1998 Art of the Pacific by Anne D'Alleva |
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Zeta
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Thu, Mar 18, 2010 12:26 PM
Is this the definitive Oceanic art book thread? I don't like the title of it because I am not a carver and it's not old enough. I know Buzzy likes to promote it... I bought this one yesterday for 3 dollah (Boston accent) [ Edited by: Zeta 2010-03-18 12:27 ] |
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Tiki Tack
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Thu, Mar 18, 2010 4:14 PM
I am soooo jealous! |
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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Fri, Dec 9, 2011 12:27 AM
Some nice online source photos: Spencer collection of slides of Papua New Guinea, 1953-1978 [ Edited by: Sabu The Coconut Boy 2011-12-09 00:28 ] |
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Capt. R.H. Falernum
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Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:25 PM
There's also a rather good collection that I have yet to see referenced here on Tiki Central, so this seemed like a good thread in which to share it: The Helen S. Slosberg Collection of Oceanic Art Catalog (1977) Available for viewing/downloading in its entirety via archive.org: http://www.archive.org/details/helensslosbergco00saul |