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Bora Bora, San Francisco, CA (restaurant)
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Name:Bora Bora Description: DC |
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DC, you probably already noticed this, but 1040 Columbus Ave. was the one-time location of Skipper Kent's. (Thanks Ms. Bifcozz for pointing this out!) Neither I nor the bifcozz's know anything about the transformation... yet :) |
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Thu, Nov 10, 2011 9:41 AM
Drink menu was just on Ebay. I know Robert Van Dorpe, first GM at the Mai-Kai, was involved with this project, but not a lot of detail beyond that. At this time he was very close with DtB and they worked together on many projects. Could Don have been involved here? I will try to find out.
I bet this was a late 70s to 80s venture at the time when DtB was opening up in failed Tiki establishment locations. It would be funny to find Don was involved and they ripped off the Mai-Kai who ripped off him!
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Thu, Nov 10, 2011 9:43 PM
Great menu! Though it seems to come from late in the game. But then again, when did businesses stop using letters in their phone numbers? |
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Fri, Nov 11, 2011 9:12 AM
Sven, that's a good point I had missed. The drink prices! This is not a 1980s menu with those prices. It would point to something more like 1963 maybe, when BVD left the Mai-Kai. Did Steve Crane take over the Bora Bora space? The 57-ish Mai-Kai menu has the Black Magic at $2.75 and Derby Daiquiri at $1. Exactly the same as here! |
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Fri, Nov 11, 2011 10:30 AM
I would also say mid to late 60s, now. Gentlemen: I must be gettin' old, or why did it take me THIS LONG for my Tiki spidey senses to start tingling, and get the "click" of where I had seen this Tiki before !!!: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=41150&forum=1 So is the Bora Bora actually the "place up North" where this legendary "bad luck" Tiki came from? If it actually stood outside the old Skipper Kent's on Columbus Avenue, why have no photos of it surfaced so far? Was its existence there so short? |
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Fri, Nov 11, 2011 2:02 PM
As far a the phone number thing, a few sources say 1967 in Southern California. I know it was early 1968 in Northern Virginia. |
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Fri, Nov 11, 2011 5:45 PM
What great info has come out on this location - nice job connecting the dots with the logo tiki Bigbro. Still hoping we'll find the Robert Van Dorpe connection... I dove into the newspaper archives and found some great info... it involves socialites, murder, intrigue... and Don Ho :) In 1965, the Bora Bora Club was owned by SF nightclub tycoon George Lavery. After a night of hard drinking, a violent fight broke out between Laverly and his newlywed socialite wife, Gail Woodfield Lavery. The young wife shot and killed her husband during the altercation - the deceased had apparently threatened her with bolt cutters during the fight. The Bora Bora club survived this incident long enough to host the one and only Don Ho in his first mainland appearance(!) in November of 1965. But the Bora Bora was closed by the time this article was written in January of '67 On a lighter note, the Bora Bora also held Karate lessons M-F from 6-8 PM and 12-2 on Saturdays :P Enjoy! |
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Fri, Nov 11, 2011 6:05 PM
Great diggin', Bill! Yup that's some bad luck alright, getting shot by your wife. But we have yet to confirm it actually stood there. |
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Fri, Nov 11, 2011 6:24 PM
Wow, some great developments on the Bora Bora here. The Bad Luck Tiki, Skipper Kent, Don the Beachcomber. Will we ever know the real story? Keep diggin Trad'r Bill. DC |
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Sat, Nov 12, 2011 8:03 AM
Nice work TB! |
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Mon, Nov 14, 2011 9:50 AM
I did not get around to talking to Bob Van Dorpe this weekend. This history is my first question next weekend. Thanks for names to drop to jog his memory Bill. I know he was part of the project. I just do not know his entire role and if had become close with DtB by that time. I should know more next week. |
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Mon, Jan 9, 2012 8:59 AM
Bob says the Bora Bora project was his from the start. He arranged the financing, created the drink menu, etc. He also mentioned Marie Meritarnagi before I could ask as one of the performers who came through there. I know that he left the Mai-Kai in October of 1963, so the 1960 date for Marie is wrong. It has to have opened in 1963 and probably 64 or later. |
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Mon, Jan 9, 2012 9:50 AM
Tim, is there any chance Bob can confirm the existence of that Barney West Tiki at that location? That puppy is a huge, two stories tall statue that IF it was made for the restaurant (and put there) would not be easy to forget. |
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Mon, Jan 9, 2012 11:52 AM
If I remember, I can send him th epicture in the mail. I asked him about Oceanic Arts and Barney West and he did seem to recognize the names at all. That isn't exact evidence and sometimes when I am able to remind him, he recalls names, and maybe he just seems to recall. 50 freakin years ago and I am shocked at what he can remember. He rattles off all these names and I am sure they mean somethign to other people, but not to me. Some day I will edit my interviews into somethign listenable that the truly geeky can hear. Trying to share with those in the know so info gets to the best uses. |
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The Bora Bora club survived this incident long enough to host the one and only Don Ho in his first mainland appearance(!) in November of 1965. But the Bora Bora was closed by the time this article was written in January of '67 On a lighter note, the Bora Bora also held Karate lessons M-F from 6-8 PM and 12-2 on Saturdays :P Enjoy! |
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Thu, May 29, 2014 11:16 PM
Here's a photo of the Barney West Tiki at Bora Bora. that's my friend Conrad's dad and uncle, John and Emeil Itchner on guitars. [ Edited by: googuse 2014-05-29 23:18 ] |
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Fri, May 30, 2014 12:16 PM
Great photo! That is certainly A Barney West Tiki, as we can see here: It's good to see where that one was used! But we were actually asking about a photo of the Bora Bora LOGO TIKI, in situ at the S.F. restaurant: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=41150&forum=1&start=0 The above photo was taken at the Redondo pier in L.A.: http://redondobeach.patch.com/groups/arts-and-entertainment/p/redondo-to-revive-giant-tiki In this article, Leroy of Oceanic Arts is quoted: The city called Leroy Schmaltz, co-owner of Oceanic Arts in Whittier, to identify the tiki. The re-erecting of the Tiki has come to a grinding halt, it seems, even "Team Tiki" on FB has given up on the slow Redondo Beach city government: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Tiki-Redondo-Beach/121437071269482 I wouldn't be surprised it it sits in some city official's backyard who just wants the whole thing be forgotten... [ Edited by: bigbrotiki 2014-05-30 17:25 ] |
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