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Name:Billingsley's Outrigger Description: Research shows that Glenn Billingsley's first restaurant opened in Los Angeles in 1946 and was called The Golden Bull. At one point Glenn had seven Golden Bull restaurants, three Outriggers and the catering business for Continental Airlines according to the article I read. The original Billingsley's is still open in LA. |
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Thu, Jun 4, 2009 11:10 AM
Here's my Billingsley's Outrigger menu. Unfortunately, it's too large for my scanner. This is a souvenir menu from Arkiva Tropika. Three different matchbooks. |
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Thu, Jun 4, 2009 11:18 AM
WOW!! Tiki-Kate you are fire. Great collection and great research. |
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Thu, Jun 4, 2009 12:15 PM
Nice post Kate.Always wondered what their menu looked like.Great find Kate! |
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bigbrotiki
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Thu, Jun 4, 2009 12:32 PM
Yeah that blue one is a killer! |
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Dustycajun
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Fri, Jun 5, 2009 9:49 AM
Wow Kate, I'm having a hard time keeping up with your new posts! Great Outrigger menus. Been trying to find one of those for years. I have a postcard showing the outside of the Surf and Sand Hotel and the Outrigger Restaurant. Here is a close-up of that great Outrigger sign. This is another postcard that shows the interior and exterior of the restaurant.
Here is yet another style matchbook I have that shows the older style logo for the restaurant. DC |
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bigbrotiki
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Fri, Jun 5, 2009 12:05 PM
A while back someone posted a photo of the building today, and of course it was completely stripped of all lava rock and Bamboo. But the key building elements were still there, proving how "cosmetic" a lot these features were. |
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Dustycajun
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Fri, Jun 5, 2009 12:52 PM
Trav, Damn that is a sad sight. DC |
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uncle trav
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Fri, Jun 5, 2009 12:59 PM
Sad indeed Dusty. From beautiful style to bland crap. That image is from google street views. I may be out of work at the moment but I can still pilot the Tiki Satellite from mission control here in Kazoo. :D |
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Mon, Jun 15, 2009 4:04 PM
Glenn Billingsley had another restaurant in Hollywood - probably in the pre-tiki poly pop era - called the Cafe Tropics. Spotted this matchbook on ebay, that's how I know. DC |
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Dustycajun
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Thu, Aug 6, 2009 6:18 PM
Here is an ashtray from the Outrigger from Critiki. |
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Tiki-Kate
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Mon, Sep 21, 2009 5:56 PM
I found this matchbook showing, or at least narrowing down, the location of another Billingley's Outrigger restaurant. It also mentions that the Jamaica Inn was Polynesian. |
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Dustycajun
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Tue, Apr 20, 2010 10:57 PM
Here is a fun illustrated postcard from Billingsley's original Cafe Tropics in Hollywood I saw on ebay. Really shows that he started by following the early pre-Tiki lead from Don, Vic and Suggie and kept going later with the Outrigger restaurants. Some great lines on this one! DC |
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Wed, Oct 6, 2010 6:17 PM
I found out about the Billingsley's Outrigger the other day while reading through Remixed. All I can say is wow. I drive by the Surf and Sand every day, and had NO idea of how good it looked in it's former life. I guess Laguna's still got the Royal Hawaiian...kind of. :/ |
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Wed, Oct 6, 2010 10:30 PM
So what year did the Outrigger close? |
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Dustycajun
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Thu, Jan 13, 2011 1:46 PM
Scored an ashtray from the Outrigger Restaurant with the Surf and Sand Hotel and The Towers logos on it as well. DC |
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Thu, Jan 13, 2011 5:28 PM
Nice ashtray DC... I just came across this thread... looks great. The inside was thick with decor. Hey do you still have this postcard? Could you post a close-up of the right side? Looks like some big Witco... Male Dancer, Female Dancer, and a shield w/spears. Thanks |
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Dustycajun
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Thu, Jan 13, 2011 8:54 PM
Trad'r Bill, Here is a close up of the Witco figures and the spear and shield. Those Witcos must of have been huge - like 7-footers! The spear and shield does not look like a Witco design, more of a knock of from Trader Vic's Or even Vagabond's House. DC |
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Thu, Jan 13, 2011 10:36 PM
Thanks DC- Yeah, when you zoom in, the shield/spears are clearly not witco... Here's bigbro's post of them from the catalog: Trad'r Bill [ Edited by: Trad'r Bill 2011-01-13 22:40 ] |
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Fri, Jan 14, 2011 1:47 PM
Bill, they made those dancers in two sizes for a while, normal and large. |
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Dustycajun
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Sat, Mar 19, 2011 2:37 PM
I finally found one of the postcards showing the inside of the Outrigger and scanned some close ups. The back of the card is a little different than the one I posted earlier - it advertises Popo as the bartender at the Tiki Bar. Beachbum Berry has a story on Popo in The Book of Tiki - he started at the Luau, won a drink contest and moved to Kelbo's - which used his name on this custom mug. Popo ended up at The Outrigger after Kelbo's. DC |
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Mon, Mar 21, 2011 10:57 PM
After THAT he moved up to some Coffee shop restaurant bar up near the Grapevine...Jeff Berry remembers. Popo really held reign at the Outrigger, I pictured a section of his cocktail menu in the BOT on page 171 But in retrospect, the Outrigger's cocktail menu, beyond the award-boasting, shows a mixologist's dedication and know how of the craft which I feel compelled to share here. The illustrations are all swiped from Don's and Vic's menus, but the text is a great time capsule of the genre: This guy knew what he was doing. Do NOT look at the prices - or weep! |
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Tue, Mar 22, 2011 9:58 AM
That's a great pledge at the end. One we should ALL follow! And don't get too weepy about those "low" prices. A $2 Zombie in 1959 is the equivalent of $15 today, which is a tad on the high side of what you might pay today for one (where you can find ones worth buying that is). |
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Wed, Mar 23, 2011 9:10 AM
I know I know, you are being too rational, Rob! :) I just like going down the list of all these yummy concoctions, reading "One Dolla, one Dolla, one Dolla..." One can dream! But the level of Polynesian pop poetry in this menu is really amazing, Popo is using ALL the elements of cocktail menu elaboration here: History and myth of cocktail origins , knowledge of different rums, spirits, and syrups, use of flowery speech, even new word creations: "Bibulation Exotica! " That's not even in the dictionary! I'm gonna steal that for my new mug and its cocktail! I wonder how influential Popo's pop poetry was... |
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Wed, Mar 23, 2011 4:49 PM
Popo was THE Poly-Pop Poet! Anybody know what the U.K.G.B. Cocktail competition stands for? DC |
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Wed, Mar 23, 2011 6:03 PM
What's the deal with this "POPO" guy again??? I know he was a bartender but does anyone have anything else him? Are we sure that this is his name on the mug? Maybe he made...ceramics too? :wink: Any additional info. would be great! I did Google PoPo but only see these TC threads. Mahalo, TabooDan Edited because I gotta use spell check more! [ Edited by: taboodan 2011-03-24 21:17 ] |
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Thu, Mar 24, 2011 8:56 PM
Say, Dan, who slipped that "Doubting Thomas" Mickey Finn in YOUR cocktail? I was always under the impression that the BOT had sufficiently established that the top mixologists were stars in their own right, like some of the D.J.'s of today. Popo was such a star so why shouldn't his moniker be on a mug? Jeff Berry put Popo's cocktails into Intoxica... and into Taboo Table... ...and here is some info on him from the Bum's Remixed: See?: "He inspired awe amongst his peers!" |
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Sat, Apr 2, 2011 12:33 PM
Ask and you shall receive!! Thanks alot Sven! That's exactly what I was looking for. I guess it was a bit of a "Doubting Thomas" shot I had!! I'm sort of embarrassed to admit it but, besides Sippin' Safari, I don't have the three books you mentioned by Jeff Berry so I missed the write up's about Popo. Thanks for kicking me in the ass and setting me straight!! I guess the reason I was wondering was quite a few years ago while starting to collect things from the Tonga Room, in San Francisco, I picked up a few items from another Restaurant that was located in the Fairmont Hotel called Al Williams Papagayo Room. Named for the many Parrots that were the restaurant's trademark, the Papagayo Room entertained luminaries from 1945 to 1961. Guests included Frank Sinatra, Mae West, Jack Benny, Marilyn Monroe and Nat King Cole, as well as politicians, dignitaries and ordinary people. Al Williams was the son of a pioneer aviator who fought with Pancho Villa. Nelson Rockefeller, who had a taste of Al Williams cooking while on a trip to Mexico, prodded Al and his wife, Katharine to open the Papagayo Room in 1945 and it was not long before the likes of Judy Garland, Clark Gable and Bob Hope turned the Papagayo Room into a San Francisco destination. One of the items I picked up from the Papagayo Room was this rare mug: It's almost identical to the one posted earlier from Kelbo's. Here's the side with the name POPO: Maybe he did a stint here as well? This is why I was asking a little bit about Popo. Maybe this was his exclusive mug design and where he went it went with him? I wonder if there are any other mugs out there from other establishments he worked in? Thanks again!! |
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Sun, Apr 3, 2011 7:07 AM
Aaah, well if there ever was a good reason, than this is one. I had no idea. I cannot see him going up to S.F., but as we know from Tiki Bob's mug, mug makers did pander off some very specifically logo-ed designs to other drinkerias sometimes. For sure, the combination of the words "Popo" and "Kelbo's" cannot be a coincidence. |
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Sat, Nov 5, 2011 8:49 PM
I found these photos of an Outrigger room service menu in the Los Angeles library archives. |
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Mon, Jul 22, 2013 7:26 PM
Found another matchbook previously seen here, but in a different color... But something else caught my eye while scanning through all the Outrigger posts here...Tiki Kate's post.
The matchbook shows three locations including the Jamaica Inn. Kate alluded to it back then, the question would be "was" the Jamaica Inn Polynesian? I thought something was "Goofy" until I saw this in one of DC's epic posts found here http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=41769&forum=2
Christian's Hut at the Jamaica Inn, so the restaurants were Polynesian for sure! Next question. Did the Outrigger take over the Christian's Hut at the Jamaica Inn or vice versa? |
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Mon, Jul 22, 2013 9:59 PM
I asked some folks who have lived in CDM since the 50s |
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Tue, Jul 23, 2013 6:46 AM
Anders, looking at the pool area of the Jamaica Inn.... ...and this one of its restaurants, I don't think the whole place was Polynesian :) The name of the place seems less to be based on a tropical island, and more on Hollywood. ...and then Alfred Hitchcock made it into a movie in 1939: That still leaves open the Christian's Hut (also of movie origin) mystery... |
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Tue, Jul 23, 2013 12:07 PM
Wow Sven, from the looks of those photos, there doesn't even appear to have been any Jamaican at the Jamaica Inn! :) |
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Fri, Mar 17, 2017 2:55 PM
I scored a nice double sided napkin from the Outrigger. Side one has the building illustration that was used in Beachbum's recipe from Intoxica.I really like the font on this. Side two has a nice Tiki and Toucan combo! But wait, there's more! I also picked up this old American Express ad from Gourmet magazine that has a photo of the restaurant interior. DC |
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Classic! Thanks DC! OGR |
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