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Tue, Mar 17, 2015 12:08 PM
[ Edited by: Jungle John 2015-03-18 20:40 ] |
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MaukaHale
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Tue, Mar 17, 2015 12:15 PM
The whole tiki experience is about escaping to a place that helps you relax and escape for awhile. Welcome back. |
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Thu, Mar 26, 2015 12:19 PM
very very cool!!!! love your signs and menu too!!! wish I had the tropical climate to grow bananas here in so cal but once in a while we get a cold snap and kills em! cant wait to see more pix |
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Tue, Mar 31, 2015 2:27 PM
Lookin good |
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Jungle John
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Wed, Feb 24, 2016 12:46 PM
The Abandoned Tiki Hut The haunting beauty of decaying abandoned places has always fascinated me. Now I can enjoy the wonderment of a moldering abandoned place right in my own backyard! That's right, the once illustrious Aloha Hut, home to the Refreshment Room's own Death-to-Captain-Cook Mai Tai, is now a bygone relic, slowly succumbing to the wilds of subtropical Florida. Here's a snapshot of it this afternoon. Nature slowly intrudes on the bridge. Frozen in time, now home to only spiders and mosquitoes. A lone sentinel to an abandoned outpost of racist-filled overtones. Sorry guys, I still contend there is more than a hint of racism in this appropriated tiki culture. Celebrating the lack of sensitivity to the poor treatment of indigenous people hardly sets a party atmosphere. I regret being involved with it, and I am glad to watch it fade away. The quaint charm of tiki/Polynesian/nautical fantasy style seems harmless and alluring when it is based on the fakey ephemera of the mid-20th century plastic tiki fad, but beneath that cheap souvenir veneer is a history of exploitation and abuse. The pre-fab tiki trinkets help sanitize and whitewash the ugly truths and harsh realities. Check out a link about tiki racism: I was bullied here on Tiki Central; initially, when I posted my early realization of the unsavory aspects of racist overtones in appropriated American tiki culture. Those right-wing sounding blowhards are still here. I don't care what they say any more. I have a feeling time will heal all wounds, and more than likely a big hurricane is going to come along and scrub my yard clean. Karma's gonna get everybody sooner or later. |
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Wed, Feb 24, 2016 1:47 PM
Interesting, to me racism is more about intent but maybe I'm wrong. The Aloha Hut looks cool in decay too. Sorry to see you go John |
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Wed, Feb 24, 2016 2:13 PM
Jungle John -- I'm rather confused by your most recent post. If you're concerned that using tiki images is racist, then why don't you take them down? And once you remove the tikis, masks, etc., can't you simply enjoy a tropical themed bar? Why leave it to decay? Seems like a waste of a nice space. |
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Wed, Feb 24, 2016 4:36 PM
Tiki isn't the American appropriation of Polynesian culture. It is the colonization of the American psyche by Polynesia. It is not an unsubtle difference. I've actually got an article about this subject that I've written fro my Disney blog... I was going to post it in November when Moana comes out because I'm sure there will be cries of cultural appropriation, but I might push it forward now, or give a preview here on the forum. |
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Wed, Feb 24, 2016 5:20 PM
I have to agree with Mike. If you no longer believe in the tiki culture why don't you take down the tikis and enjoy a lush, beautiful backyard and a non-descript bar? |
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Wed, Feb 24, 2016 8:04 PM
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tikiskip
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Thu, Feb 25, 2016 2:42 AM
Forgot to even add my post to above. Isn’t letting your backyard turn into a jungle counterproductive to the mosquito Not to worry they are going to blast us with so much bug spray this year because of the |
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 7:11 PM
careful, dude... it's a jungle out there. |
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komohana
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Sun, Mar 6, 2016 7:32 PM
Actually, we have Maori friends - ALL love our Tiki Space, and... "get it" - NONE have taken offence. ...just don't get 'em started on the Bledisloe Cup, sheeeesh!... Has someone chipped you, or is it just the voices? |
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Jungle John
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 1:44 PM
Reopened. Tiki is cool. |
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tikiskip
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 2:07 PM
"Has someone chipped you, or is it just the voices?" Ok so I love this statement. |
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Jungle John
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 3:10 PM
I though I'd stimulate debate, not stir up hate. Sorry. |
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Jeff Bannow
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 3:17 PM
Welcome back! |
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EnchantedTikiGoth
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 3:59 PM
The pendulum has swung back. |
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tikiskip
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 4:25 PM
Just to be clear my post was not hateful. And komohana did add to the debate. Dam your hut is cool as well. |
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komohana
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 5:04 PM
I also think your hut is way cool, the roof over the entry in particular is beautifully proportioned. Further, I was not being hateful - believe me, if I was there would be no doubt - I was simply saying that If you're not familiar with the expression - chipped - If someone chips you, they are taking a swipe or taking Has someone confronted you about the cultural appropriation issue? or has it to do with your own inner struggle? Would be interested to hear if anyone else has taken flak over these issues. p.s. What ever you do - don't get the kiwis started on the Bledisloe Cup, sheeeesh!... |
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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 6:53 PM
Kind of like you calling us all "racist white trash" on your blog and Google+? |
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tikiskip
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Wed, Apr 6, 2016 3:15 AM
Ha! Now we got a debate. This may turn out to be a love, hate, kinda ok with it relationship. [ Edited by: tikiskip 2016-04-06 03:17 ] |
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Wed, Apr 6, 2016 6:06 AM
You know I went and looked at your blog and have to say what really stood out to me is you like to drop some you guys on TC and tiki sucks bomb and then when the s%^t hits the fan take YOUR hateful post away. In fact it looks like you got WAY more good comments and people trying to encourage you on TC. Seeing the way your past goes is this now the time that you bash TC, then love tiki, and in the end don a poor helpless lamb suit and cry foul. You need to look at yourself and see that you are the hater that is pushing buttons. “White trash” tiki lover, |
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Wed, Apr 6, 2016 3:37 PM
I don't know if it's happening more often now, or if I'm just noticing it more often now because I'm older and less tolerant of it, but I dislike this inability of a seemingly increasing number of people to carry on a civil disagreement. It never seems like it's just disagreeing about something, having a respectful and rational discussion, and then politely agreeing to disagree. It's always like... "I think Tiki is cultural appropriation." It could be a discussion about morals, culture, politics, religion, science, whatever... And it doesn't matter which side the person is on... It just goes from 0 to 60 in a snap. |
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Jungle John
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Wed, Apr 6, 2016 9:47 PM
The Google Plus posts are gone. I had forgotten all about those. Thanks for reminding me and sorry that I put them up. Here goes: I promise to only extol the positive side of tiki culture from now on here at Tiki Central. I'm sorry if comments I made here or on other sites offended anyone. In this hypersensitive politically correct climate I understand people are touchy about topics like racism. I'll never mention it again. I am sorry. I'm still interested in current race relations in the islands as much as I am interested in the history of tiki culture, not to mention the sociological and culture anthropology aspects of it too. In the meantime, I began work on a new tiki fountain by carving, sanding and gluing this styrofoam head/mask this very evening. Water will squirt out of its mouth. I'll paint it brown, etc. Its about 18 inches wide by 24 in. long. |
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Sat, Apr 9, 2016 8:08 PM
Without having been involved in the previous debate, I must say I never considered Tiki to be racist. Here's my 2 cents as a former art history major. Personally, I see Tiki as the high culture trends at the time getting filtered down to pop culture. High fashion influences street fashion, which in turn influences high fashion. Additionally, Tiki doesn't portray, or even attempt to accurately duplicate a real culture or historic time period. It's pure fantasy. Certainly racist (and sexist) undertones were prevalent in pop culture during the mid century period (just watch the first episode of Mad Men), but I don't think the tiki fad can be blamed for intentionally perpetrating them, and that any racist elements were merely an unintentional reflection of the society they were created by. |
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Sat, Apr 9, 2016 9:31 PM
Tiki central It's right there, at the top. [ Edited by: tikiskip 2016-04-09 21:46 ] |
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EnchantedTikiGoth
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Sat, Apr 9, 2016 11:00 PM
Tiki is, fundamentally, an expression of the American cultural experience. Specifically, America's encounter with the South Pacific. It does not represent Polynesian culture and was never intended to. The first Tiki bar - Don's Beachcomber Cafe - was simply filled with the bric-a-brac collected by Ernest Gantt during his own travels around the tropics. That cultural experience necessarily overlaps with the cultural experiences of Polynesians themselves, which is where it can get ambiguous. Cultural objects and images from Polynesia become the backdrop of this encounter. The framework of "cultural appropriation," however, is fraught with its own problems... It's not an effective concept for understanding how actual people in actual cultures act and interact. There certainly may be some instances of (largely unintended) disrespect, plagiarism, etc., but not nearly enough to indict the Tiki subculture. |
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Jungle John
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Tue, Apr 12, 2016 7:11 PM
Finished stryofoam tiki fountain. I haven't had much luck with fountains. The last one had an open water pool and got filled with tadpoles and leaves despite adding some chlorine tabs. This one has an enclosed tank. Added the little tiki to get that water-trickling sound. Accent lighting at night. |
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