warning: major episode of foot in mouth by tiki toa - General Tiki

T Tiki-Toa Member Somewhere on Planet Tiki Joined: May 30, 2004 Posts: 1012	T Tiki-Toa Posted posted on Wed, Sep 8, 2004 3:03 PM On 2004-09-08 11:43, PolynesianPop wrote: On 2004-09-07 18:17, hanford_lemoore wrote: ...he's had multiple profiles and tried to make people think it was someone totally different (how weird and deceitful is this post when you realize it was Toa asking it?) It is obvious he can dish it out. Well I'm glad that this has been finally put out in the open. I don't know Toa personally, but I can tell you that I think this sucks. What's the deal with all the shady behavior??? You know, this kind of behavior isn't much different than the stuff he's been trying to pull with this book he's going to "write." I put "write" in quotes because from what I could gather, he's taking all of the recipes he gathered from TC that everyone else contributed, the stories and pics that everyone else contributed, compiling them and then calling himself the author. And then he's going to sell them?! To who? To the same people who gave him the information! Pretty unethical and uncool if you ask me. I've been trying to keep all of this to myself but this last KOOMBYEYAH identity stunt has really pissed me off. This is NOT what TC is about. I know I'm probably gonna get some heat for this post but it needed to be said -- too many people are complaining about it (offline) and nobody is saying anything. Poly-Pop * He who dies with the most broken mugs WINS! [ Edited by: PolynesianPop on 2004-09-08 11:49 ] To address a number of Polypops points because they are valid, though I wish he could have made them sooner I will try my best to address them now. As a week ago I made the choice to remove all tiki cental recipes, and I even talked about this with Duke Carter as of last night, feel free to contact him as I am sure many will not believe me. http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=10348&forum=11&vpost=107761 that I made as KOOMBYEYAH! was a crack on myself and how so many have issue with my number of posts and how people have an issue without really knowing me. I was not sure I even wanted to do this book project in the first place until I talked to Duke about it, and from his support of my idea I went ahead with it. Even after he warned me that by going to a publisher that I would make very little money on it. I am trying to do a honest collection of things tiki, something that is not like what others have done. If I was a carver and I did a cannibal tiki would I be ripping someone else off by doing so? But I have no claims to be Sven, or Duke, or even JT. I am just trying to make an idea happen, and it may never reach publication. You know when Founder came to me and said he wanted to do the cover after reading what I was trying to do I knew that at least he and others supported the idea of it. While others have issue with it but say nothing. To vwtikigirl, feel free to contact Duke Carter if you think that this is about money, ya know for someone that I have never ever had a converstaion with you are sorely wrong. I did blame tikifish for my actions, I stated why I wrongly made the actions I did, because of took issue with her comment, again to Tikifish I APOLOGIZE for my actions.

On 2004-09-08 11:43, PolynesianPop wrote:

On 2004-09-07 18:17, hanford_lemoore wrote:
...he's had multiple profiles and tried to make people think it was someone totally different (how weird and deceitful is this post when you realize it was Toa asking it?) It is obvious he can dish it out.

Well I'm glad that this has been finally put out in the open. I don't know Toa personally, but I can tell you that I think this sucks. What's the deal with all the shady behavior???

You know, this kind of behavior isn't much different than the stuff he's been trying to pull with this book he's going to "write." I put "write" in quotes because from what I could gather, he's taking all of the recipes he gathered from TC that everyone else contributed, the stories and pics that everyone else contributed, compiling them and then calling himself the author. And then he's going to sell them?! To who? To the same people who gave him the information! Pretty unethical and uncool if you ask me.

I've been trying to keep all of this to myself but this last KOOMBYEYAH identity stunt has really pissed me off.

This is NOT what TC is about.

I know I'm probably gonna get some heat for this post but it needed to be said -- too many people are complaining about it (offline) and nobody is saying anything.

**Poly-Pop ***

He who dies with the most broken mugs WINS!

[ Edited by: PolynesianPop on 2004-09-08 11:49 ]

To address a number of Polypops points because they are valid, though I wish he could have made them sooner I will try my best to address them now.

As a week ago I made the choice to remove all tiki cental recipes, and I even talked about this with Duke Carter as of last night, feel free to contact him as I am sure many will not believe me.
http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=10348&forum=11&vpost=107761 that I made as KOOMBYEYAH! was a crack on myself and how so many have issue with my number of posts and how people have an issue without really knowing me.
I was not sure I even wanted to do this book project in the first place until I talked to Duke about it, and from his support of my idea I went ahead with it. Even after he warned me that by going to a publisher that I would make very little money on it.
I am trying to do a honest collection of things tiki, something that is not like what others have done. If I was a carver and I did a cannibal tiki would I be ripping someone else off by doing so? But I have no claims to be Sven, or Duke, or even JT. I am just trying to make an idea happen, and it may never reach publication. You know when Founder came to me and said he wanted to do the cover after reading what I was trying to do I knew that at least he and others supported the idea of it. While others have issue with it but say nothing.
To vwtikigirl, feel free to contact Duke Carter if you think that this is about money, ya know for someone that I have never ever had a converstaion with you are sorely wrong.
I did blame tikifish for my actions, I stated why I wrongly made the actions I did, because of took issue with her comment, again to Tikifish I APOLOGIZE for my actions.

Post #113103 by Tiki-Toa on Wed, Sep 8, 2004 3:03 PM