Post #186195 by tikibars on Mon, Sep 12, 2005 6:05 PM

On 2005-09-11 20:07, Traitor Vic wrote:
That being the case, there may be copies of songs by Denny or Baxter, but they will be burned from the original vinyl and not the remastered Ultra-Lounge CDs.

Hey guys.

We've bumped the swap meet up to noon from 1:00 PM to give you all some more time to do your thing before the ballroom closes down for the day.

Haole Kats and DJ LeSpam will be there to entertain you all.

To address Traitor Vic's confusion (quoted above), just because you make a CD from an original vinyl copy of a record doesn't mean it's legit. It is the music that is under copyright, not the medium.

In order to end this confusion once and for all, I'll make the following ruling. It isn't nescesarily a strict reading of copyright law, it's more of a rule-of-thumb approximation, but it will suffice for our purposes.

Selling digital copies of any music that is available for purchase, anywhere in the world, from a legit copyright holder, even if you made the vinyl-to-digital transfer yourself, is kapu.
Trading of copies (as opposed to originals) of this same music (or video) is frowned upon.
Trading original copies of anything, from any era, is always OK.
Trading of digital copies any music that is NOT available in any format anywhere in the world is OK.
Selling of digital copies of music (even at vendor's tables) that is NOT available in any format anywhere in the world is touchy but will be allowed.

Examples:
Downloading all three gigabytes of those MP3s of Hapa Haole 78's that were on the UseNet a few months ago and trading DVD-Rs of them is OK.
Selling this same DVD-R is OK, but frowned upon.

Making a CD of your vinyl or CD copy of Forbidden Island by Martin Denny and trading or selling it (or MP3s of it) is NOT OK.

Making a CD of your vinyl or CD copy of The Forbidden Sounds of Don Tiki and trading or selling it (or MP3s of it) is NOT OK.

Making a CD of your vinyl copies of records in the so-called "Luke Leilani Sessions" series and trading them is OK. Selling them is frowned upon.

Making a DVD of the Kon Tiki movie trading or selling it is kapu. Making a DVD of some movie that is completely unavailable on video and trading it is OK, selling it is frowned upon. Selling or trading an original VHS copy of the Rapa Nui movie is OK... but who the hell would want it?

And since Christie and I will be over at the Mai Kai getting things ready for most of the swap meet, you can all probably just do what you want, but I have said my piece and covered the Hukilau's ass, so trade away, people, and have fun.