Post #293160 by Tiki Diablo on Mon, Mar 19, 2007 5:12 PM

On 2007-03-19 09:56, Tipsy McStagger wrote:

On 2007-03-19 09:12, Tiki Diablo wrote:
It's TIKI, you are supposed to borrow stuff. Been going on since the heyday

...not when it's someone else's copyright!!...not when you a)didn't ask permission and b)didn't compensate the owner of said copyright....in case you weren't aware, there are laws against copyright infringement.....perhaps you would feel differently if i took your tiki carvings and such, copied them in china and sold them myself, not giving you a single dime or a thank you!!....and when you called me up to bitch about me stealing your ideas i can say "oh it's okay...everyone borrows!! it's tiki after all!!".....you got some weird logic going on, my man....it's that cavalier attitude of not having respect for another designers ideas that allows theft to proliferate....it sounds as if from your statement above, that you are almost encouraging people to steal....nice!!

..and yes, it's been going on since the heyday, but you don't know if the owners of certain designs didn't legally go after those infringers either....

big companies often feel they can use another's ideas because they may feel that the individual or small company doesn't have the time, money and or legal capacity to be able to stop them, so they continue to steal, knowing full well what they are doing....

and my contract with ms. crowell is restricted only to 3 dimensional representations of elviki..i have no authority over any 2-dimensional representations of her work, however, hearing that the artwork was directly lifted off the box art that i had specifically designed, i am obligated to get involved....cindy is also a friend of mine and i help her out with these issues when possible.

now...if you'll excuse me....i have a birdhouse to purchase somewhere in this town...

Teakey, I enjoy a lil friendly competition, bring your A game though.

Tipsy, just pointing out that you are complaining about not being asked permission to use a design that somebody came across while trying to bring a product to market. You are just sounding hypocritical to me. You borrow, I borrow, 99% of art is borrowed in one form or another.

I have been in this situation a few times, and am not by any means encouraging everyone to rip each other off. Is it going to happen to some degree, Yes, can't stop that. I guess you have to chose your battles, because you won't win them all.

Artist are not going to ask permission first to use an idea or image for their own subject material all the time. They might say" the place has closed down now" or The guy that drew that is probably long dead" But I'll check first and wait to hear from them before I do my thing.

Maybe you did ask first on stuff like this..

https://tikicentral.com/uploads/2706/45ecb732.jpg

https://tikicentral.com/uploads/2706/45de3f4e.jpg

Now that I have got your juices flowing , go win that fight! errr the one with the other guys,.... not me. :wink: