Post #303723 by Swamp Tiki on Thu, May 3, 2007 4:02 AM

Sorry to offend, but I was a developer prior to switching sides who started protecting historic properties rather than bulldozing them and throwing up a new hotel, stripmall, fast-food joint, or filling station. If you are hip to saving eligible properties and initiating adaptive use measures to protect our treasured landscapes, I applaud you. In This situation, big money deals will be striking a historic landmark that failed to be recognized until it was too late. I work with planning departments and agree that some of the problem lies there, but most development activity centers around shark patrols and windshield land assessments to pinpoint sites to wedge in their grand ideas.

You may see a rosier picture than I or perhaps been lucky enough to be a part of a progressive organization...my disgust comes from seeing development trends that have been in place and gaining speed since the early 1970s.

Sorry that you couldn't get your family to TBBH prior to the closing. It was a great spot and you would have had a great evening.

Swamp

On 2007-05-02 23:38, bananabobs wrote:

On 2007-05-02 18:38, Swamp Tiki wrote:
Ohana:

Ironically, developers (large and small) live in a fantasy world far removed from our own. They genuinely believe that their ideas of urban development are bettering the world around them.

... We in the preservation field constantly push for the establishment of districts that are governed by zoning ordinances. This is the only way to keep these mis-guided souls in check. When protective measures are in place and part of public policy there isn't much they can do except buy off a politician...

Developers don't care about whats right for our communites only whats right for them. @#!!*@##!!!!
Swamp

Swamp,
Everyone is pissed that TV is closed, I think it SUCKS!
However, All developers?? Come on this is 2007, we can play better than that! I am a developer and everything you said is so false, perhaps for some but I take offense to your statements! ZONING ORDINANCES? Yeah that's a good idea, give the government something else to screw up.
Bottom line, like it or not, IT DOESN'T BELONG TO YOU. It belongs to them, they get to decide and I would go to arms to protect that right. I don't want them to close it but in the USA, we have freedoms and liberties and it is their choice.
Your last line about developers only want what's right for them...that is true of Planning departments in cities and counties.
I do not want to light you up and I understand the feelings, trust me, I wanted to take my daughter and her husband there in July.

[ Edited by: Swamp Tiki 2007-05-03 04:04 ]