Post #430347 by SuperEight on Fri, Jan 23, 2009 7:49 PM

Wow I really never intended to start this shit storm. I knew Big Bro would have an opinion but never did I think this would take up 5 pages in one day.

I appreciate Big Bro trying to keep a focus on the site. You don't go to a cooking site to discuss auto repair. And more important than anything its his sandbox. His books (which I do love by the way) have a thesis about where Tiki culture came from and what defines it. I just differ about how rigid this definition can ever be, and I guess I mostly disagree about any influence Hawaii might have had on Polynesian Pop once flowered on the mainland, and indeed whether Hawaii ever had any true Tiki establishments.

A few more points concerning Big Bro's rebuttal:

3. Most of the best known tiki drinks were invented on the mainland. But the huge majority of people have had their first Mai Tai et al in Hawaii. And tropical drink menus continue to exist all over Waikiki today. Hawaii put the Mai Tai on the map.