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Post #465706 by tiki mick on Tue, Jun 30, 2009 7:55 AM

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On 2009-06-29 16:47, ravenne wrote:

On 2009-06-29 14:50, lucas vigor wrote:
To me, a greater comparison would be with David Bowie. That man is and was way more influencial, in my opinion. Each new record he set a trend.

Er...I'm gonna have to disagree.

As much as I ADORE David Bowie (and believe me people who know me well enough can tell ya that) he was not a LOT more influential than Jackson...

Michael Jackson did a lot more for the world than Bowie.
He broke down black and white walls.
He revolutionized music and his videos were works of art that completely changed how we see music now.
Michael mixed everything into one.
He was a visionary.

Everyone knows Michael Jackson, but not everyone knows who David Bowie is.

I love Bowie, but Michael had a farther reach on the whole world...

The proof is in the out pour of mourning fans...

Not to mention Bowie's last albums:
Hours (I swear a #$%^&n Mid-Life Crisis album!!! :lol: )
Heathen (I actually love this out of the last 3 albums he put out)
Reality (FEH...Bowie could do SO much better)

weren't that great...they didn't even make it top 10 here in the US...
While Jackson's albums always went #1...

I hate to knock Bowie, but just saying he is a lot more influential than Jackson is kinda ridiculous... :lol:
It's like comparing apples to oranges! ...yea just can't do it!

Albeit, your opinion, but I just wanna throw in my fity cents in here too.
(...that and you mentioned bowie :lol: )

On 2009-06-29 16:07, kingstiedye wrote:
i mean influencial to the music industry, on artists that came after him, and on race relations in this country and worldwide.

Yep. No denying that!

But back to the topic at hand, I grew up listening to Michael Jackson like many others out there, and can't help but respect and love the man for his talent. My niece, best friend, and I were real shocked when we'd heard his passing & we'll miss him!

RIP Michael Jackson.

And I too, disagree. The two dominant forms of pop music in the last twenty years were hip hop and new wave (and with new wave I count basically everything from synth pop to grunge to alt rock). Hip hop had a lot of influences that were not really Michael Jackson. People tend to forget that there were great RB bands before him, and after. Barkays, slave, cameo, P-funk, Sly and the family stone, I could go on and on...where as New wave and all it's descendents were directly influenced by a handful of acts, many of which were influenced by Bowie (Lou Reed, velvet underground, MC5, etc..) When you hear the latest emo band, you can totally hear Bowie's influence.

When I hear current hip hop, I don't hear any of Michael Jackson's influence.

Anyway, am I touching a nerve with you tiki people? I had better drop it now.