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Post #58797 by PolynesianPop on Thu, Nov 6, 2003 3:59 PM

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On 2003-11-05 22:00, Tiki Mon wrote:
Also, Bob Marley is more of a Caribbean ambassador than Jimmy Buffet ever was.

Tiki Mon,
You're right, Bob Marley IS more of a Caribbean ambassador than Jimmy Buffet. But you obviously missed the point of my post.

The point was -- CARIBBEAN IS NOT TIKI.

No matter how you slice it, it's not even close. Again, note the points I illustrated in my original post:

On 2003-11-05 21:48, PolynesianPop wrote:

  • Tikis are of South PACIFIC origin -- about oh, 6,000 miles or so from the Caribbean (in the ATLANTIC ocean).
  • Music from the South Pacific - Hapa Haole, ukuleles and lap steel guitars. Music from the Caribbean - Reggae and Steel Drums.
  • Pacific Islands - Volcanoes, Caribbean Islands - Rocks.
  • South Pacific pastime - Surfing, Caribbean pastime - smoking ganja.
  • Pacific ambassador - Don Ho. Caribbean ambassador - Jimmy Buffet.
  • South Pacific tikis - Ku, Lono, Moai, Maori, Marquesan. Caribbean tikis - Carter takes a poo.
  • Lastly, native Polynesians look COMPLETELY different from native Caribbeans.

I was illustrating how different South Pacific culture is from Caribbean culture.

Basement Kahuna hit the nail on the head when he said:

I hate to break it to you, but the concept of difference is moot because there is no such thing (as Carribean Tiki). -On the "tiki" that really does exist, the word Tiki emanated from the South Pacific; first with the Maori of present-day New Zealand and later to Tahiti/Bora Bora/Cook Island and the Austral Islands (it loosely means "first man"). It's Pacific. Always was, always is, always will be. Anyone citing it's origins from anywhere else is misinformed.

Therefore, if it ain't tiki then how can it be called a tiki bar?!

BTW - it ain't even Polynesian Pop!