Post #594266 by tiki mick on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 3:20 PM

The answer is a simple one:

The sport-art competitor will have more experience in getting into street altercations. That's a no brainer because a sport art competitor doesn't train for awareness or avoidance. Most situations can be avoided or at least diffused if you have a head on your shoulders, self control and have even a minimal amount of training or even exposure to matters of diplomacy. Some sport competitors have those qualities, but due to the competitive, adrenaline-driven attitudes that many sports foster, many do not.

You of course, Jubaji, have none of those qualities. That's not a jab at you asshole. Its a fact based on your own admissions.

In your tale concerning your rumble in the Denny's parking lot with the drunk guy, I believe the man produced a knife and THEN smacked you in the mouth. The truth about it is, and I've stated this before, that the guy did NOT want to use the knife for anything other than intimidation. Even if he had pulled it out after he smacked you, he clearly did not want to use it.

In your ridiculous story, the man with the knife got distracted due to watching his buddies kick the shit out of your boyfriend. It was at that point that you could have simply walked away or at least back into the bar. Instead, you saw that the man was distracted and just drunk enough for you to live out your caped crusader fantasy. So instead of running, you suplexed the drunk guy and at that very moment in your mind the belly to belly suplex instantly became "Kill Move Of Choice".

So if you really think about it, sport competitors DO in fact get into more violent situations because they are clueless, but they almost always get fucked up more often for their efforts. Tito Ortiz, Lee Murray, Vernon Forrest, Alex Gong .. those men were some of the top athletes in their sports at the time they found out how well sport training gets you prepared for the street. You have champions from MMA, boxing and muay thai on that list.

What's most important to acknowledge about that list is that if these men, who were champions at the top of sport competitive combat, could not defend or attack against a lesser trained assailant successfully, what chance do you or anyone sport competitor think you have?

Is jubaji suggesting that the Joe's are going to outperform the Pro's who couldn't get the job done?

In all fairness, its important to note one fact:

The Pro's that were killed, maimed or knocked out had NEVER trained for any kind of real violence. They had only trained to excel in their own respective sports in safe and secure environments.

Its only idiots like jubaji and others like him that seem to want to believe that one thing is the other.

This is how he can still ask simple-minded questions like the one quoted above because he must at all costs ignore facts and cling to the idea that wrestling, boxing, or kickboxing have some hidden components for which to make a sportsman instantly competent in SD during a mugging with skills he's NEVER before trained with.

I hope that answers your question, Jubidoo.

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[ Edited by: lucas vigor 2012-05-11 16:01 ]