Post #619083 by Swanky on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 8:37 AM

... Yet, if you were to ask any native to the area if the area was a great place to live, they would be absolute in their defense of the area. They really hate California and deride the state as a land of fruit and nuts. They tend to really believe that the state might - should- fall into the sea. As George Bush would say, they hate us for our freedoms..

That hits the nail on the head for a whole lot of the mid-west. It seems that hating California and Californians is kin to people in the South hating Yankees. It is part of the culture. Some sort of shame that gets turned into anger against someone else instead. That attitude may be why people see activity on the forum decreasing... The easterners and mid-westerners are talking to each other instead of hanging out in this den of Californians.

I second the advice above. A concept is good, but you gotta pick the right location to succeed anywhere. You know your city. Chose wisely.