Post #648191 by Tipsy McStagger on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 5:30 AM

On 2012-08-14 05:00, Or Got Rum? wrote:
Some well thought out comments....now my 2 cents. I feel that yes, it is TV and somewhat "dramatic" and overblown with "intensity", but these owners are FAILING. Having spent my life in the business (and have had my share of bumps and bruises) I know one thing....if your service, drinks, and food suck, theme and concept mean nothing. You can be Tiki/Pirate/Old West/British Pub/Green Local Sourced Farm to Frickin Table/Whatever...if it's not operated like a business, it will FAIL. I truly do not think that "insiders" are against Tiki, I think not that many have done it right. I read what you lucky folks that have Tiki bars and restaurants around them say and you are usually spot on. The good ones survive and the bad ones don't. Understand your concept (with concept proper drinks and food) and have EXCELLENT SERVICE and you will grow. I remember the old saying in this biz..."you can't eat atmosphere". Thank you for this great site. OGR

[ Edited by: Or Got Rum? 2012-08-14 05:02 ]

well said - although i didn't hear any well thought out comments (other than your own) like you did here. All i heard was a bunch of folk that know alot about tiki and nothing about bar/restaurant ownership, ganging up, bad mouthing the host of the show, who, incidentally, happens to know what he's talking about. In he abrasive? yes, but in order to get through to these bone-headed bar owners, you have to be.

that said, the redondo beach episode was on last night - it's the old "tony's on the pier" place.... That old tiki structure still had a great shape from the outside but it became the dreadful Kilkenny pub- to be later renamed The Breakwall by the shows end...... It's such a cool structure, would have been great to revamp it as a tiki bar from it's former glory days.