Newspaper article, “Taking the tacky out of Tiki (drinks)” - Tiki Drinks and Food

B bigbrotiki Tiki Socialite Tiki Island, above the Silverlake Joined: Mar 25, 2002 Posts: 11621	B bigbrotiki Posted posted on Sun, Sep 8, 2013 8:21 AM Yesss, Jeff Berry to the rescue! You know that if they interview him, the piece can't be ALL wrong :) Yet...it is funny how everybody is trying to put their own spin on the subject: "While temperately embracing elements of tiki decor — check the thatched-roof bar, 8-foot marlin and variety of tiki mugs — Kosevich says the Torpedo Bar is all about the cocktails. “We’re not opening up a kitschy tiki bar,” he said. “That’s not what this is. We’re taking these cocktails very seriously" Yawn. How often have we heard that? "Non-tacky" being the excuse for lack-of-budget "Tiki-Lite"...But they lost me here: "So, why now are the tiki and craft-cocktail worlds colliding? Pip Hanson, cocktailer in chief at Marvel Bar — which tiptoed into tiki this summer during its Sunday improv nights and with its frozen “Blender Bar” menu — said it’s a predictable reaction to the “temple-of-the-cocktail bars” like New York’s Pegu Club and PDT. “Everything got a little bit precious, and that’s fine,” Hanson said. “Tiki is just a totally unpretentious thing. It’s a return to having fun with your drinks. A lot of people would argue it’s high time that happened again.” Okay: "...which tiptoed into tiki.... with its frozen “Blender Bar” menu..." Hmmm...sounds like a contradiction in terms to me. And PDT being referred to as a "precious temple of the cocktail bars"? Last time I looked, Tiki was all about pretending, and it was the new cocktailians who were bringing in the "classy" aspect. But now that that very craftiness-in-cocktails has lead to the term "Mixologist" being seen as possibly pretentious... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_id6i7OBj0 ...one must define Tiki as an antidote? So if you take Tiki drinks serious (like the proprietors claim) it is fun, but with craft cocktails it is pretentious? :D I say it is ALL good, it is far better to have too well done cocktails than lack-of-skill libations. If the mixologist has fun concocting them, it shall translate into fun imbibing them! And yes, Tiki can save the day, any day! I do wonder what that opening Tiki rendering is portraying: The pretentious new cocktailian as a Tiki - or the "sloshed little brother" mentioned in the article?

Yesss, Jeff Berry to the rescue! You know that if they interview him, the piece can't be ALL wrong :)

Yet...it is funny how everybody is trying to put their own spin on the subject:

"While temperately embracing elements of tiki decor — check the thatched-roof bar, 8-foot marlin and variety of tiki mugs — Kosevich says the Torpedo Bar is all about the cocktails. “We’re not opening up a kitschy tiki bar,” he said. “That’s not what this is. We’re taking these cocktails very seriously"

Yawn. How often have we heard that? "Non-tacky" being the excuse for lack-of-budget "Tiki-Lite"...But they lost me here:

"So, why now are the tiki and craft-cocktail worlds colliding? Pip Hanson, cocktailer in chief at Marvel Bar — which tiptoed into tiki this summer during its Sunday improv nights and with its frozen “Blender Bar” menu — said it’s a predictable reaction to the “temple-of-the-cocktail bars” like New York’s Pegu Club and PDT. “Everything got a little bit precious, and that’s fine,” Hanson said. “Tiki is just a totally unpretentious thing. It’s a return to having fun with your drinks. A lot of people would argue it’s high time that happened again.”

Okay: "...which tiptoed into tiki.... with its frozen “Blender Bar” menu..."
Hmmm...sounds like a contradiction in terms to me. And PDT being referred to as a "precious temple of the cocktail bars"?

Last time I looked, Tiki was all about pretending, and it was the new cocktailians who were bringing in the "classy" aspect. But now that that very craftiness-in-cocktails has lead to the term "Mixologist" being seen as possibly pretentious...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_id6i7OBj0
...one must define Tiki as an antidote? So if you take Tiki drinks serious (like the proprietors claim) it is fun, but with craft cocktails it is pretentious? :D
I say it is ALL good, it is far better to have too well done cocktails than lack-of-skill libations. If the mixologist has fun concocting them, it shall translate into fun imbibing them! And yes, Tiki can save the day, any day!

I do wonder what that opening Tiki rendering is portraying: The pretentious new cocktailian as a Tiki - or the "sloshed little brother" mentioned in the article?

Post #692843 by bigbrotiki on Sun, Sep 8, 2013 8:21 AM