LH 151 replacement - Tiki Drinks and Food

R rockydog101 Member Joined: Aug 20, 2014 Posts: 104	R rockydog101 Posted posted on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 7:25 AM On 2014-12-11 06:21, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote: Actually there are other suggestions on that thread JenTiki linked too like this one that was posted right after a post you made 29 days ago, on that very same thread On 2014-11-13 01:17, Hurricane Hayward wrote: Lemon Hart's previous U.S. importer, Ed Hamilton (of The Ministry of Rum fame), has just announced a new Demerara rum (both 86 and 151 proof), which has raised some hopes for a Lemon Hart replacement. Perhaps this is what he had in mind back in May when he said he was "working on obtaining another overproof rum that will work in many of the cocktails you love." http://www.caribbean-spirits.com/labeldetails.php?id=68 http://www.caribbean-spirits.com/labeldetails.php?id=67 As for the status of Lemon Hart, I'm fairly certain the pipeline has stopped flowing, though it's possible you'll find bottles squirreled away in various stores and small distribution channels for quite a while. If you see it, by all means grab it. For high-volume bars who must deal with their mainstream distributors, the end is near unfortunately. The Mai-Kai has officially removed it from all the drinks on their menu, though it appears they've stashed some away for special purposes. See my latest update here: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=47293&forum=10&start=45 Latitude 29 opened earlier today with 15 cases, but who knows how long that will last. I would expect they're good into early next year ... http://latitude29nola.com Over at Smuggler's Cove, the last I heard from Martin Cate is that he's about to start "tasting, blending and comparing" to come up with a replacement. He has "five decades worth of vintage Lemon Hart 151" at his disposal, so I'm hopeful he'll be able to offer the best advice on how to handle a future without Lemon Hart. Of course, LH 151 could come back on the market next year and make this whole discussion moot, but I would not count on that happening. On their Facebook page, they seem more concerned with promoting their spiced rum: https://www.facebook.com/LemonHartRum And this one two posts down from the other I just quoted: On 2014-11-14 00:08, Hurricane Hayward wrote: Lots of discussion on the Ministry of Rum's Facebook group about the Hamilton 151 rum. I don't think you need to be logged into Facebook to read: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152475429388873&set=gm.10152431745482724&type=1&theater Among the more interesting: From Ed on Nov. 3: "It will be another month before it's ready to ship in bottles, but shipping the rum to the bottler is the first of many small steps." On Nov. 4, he added that there will be distribution in all of the colored states on this map: http://caribbean-spirits.com Then he added: "With the intent of being vague, I'll say this Demerara Overproof will have the signature Demerara notes that make Demerara rums unique. Smoky, dark fruit, tobacco, spice." Looks like it will hit retail stores in early 2015. So your reply to JenTiki should be "thank you for the help" without the snarkiness and your welcomed. [ Edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2014-12-11 06:27 ] Do you really think a post talking about rum that is not even available for purchase yet is helpful? I've already looked into that rum and you can't buy it anywhere, especially online. I'm not trying to be snarky, it's just that her post was completely unhelpful and rather condescending. Clearly I'm aware of that thread as I have posted in it, and there's very little helpful information in it. Particularly if the original post of this thread is actually read and comprehended. The original post is asking for replacements that are available for purchase online. I'm done with arguing with people on the internet. So, if we can get over defending a long time poster who condescendingly told someone with less posts to "use the search function" when she clearly didn't even read the original post, it would be interesting to hear of any suitable existing LH151 replacements that can be purchased online. El Dorado has a 151 as well but through my searches here no one thinkgs its a demerara and weren't particularly pleased with it. [ Edited by: rockydog101 2014-12-11 07:37 ]

On 2014-12-11 06:21, Atomic Tiki Punk wrote:
Actually there are other suggestions on that thread JenTiki linked too
like this one that was posted right after a post you made 29 days ago, on that very same thread

On 2014-11-13 01:17, Hurricane Hayward wrote:
Lemon Hart's previous U.S. importer, Ed Hamilton (of The Ministry of Rum fame), has just announced a new Demerara rum (both 86 and 151 proof), which has raised some hopes for a Lemon Hart replacement. Perhaps this is what he had in mind back in May when he said he was "working on obtaining another overproof rum that will work in many of the cocktails you love."

http://www.caribbean-spirits.com/labeldetails.php?id=68
http://www.caribbean-spirits.com/labeldetails.php?id=67

As for the status of Lemon Hart, I'm fairly certain the pipeline has stopped flowing, though it's possible you'll find bottles squirreled away in various stores and small distribution channels for quite a while. If you see it, by all means grab it.

For high-volume bars who must deal with their mainstream distributors, the end is near unfortunately. The Mai-Kai has officially removed it from all the drinks on their menu, though it appears they've stashed some away for special purposes. See my latest update here:
http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=47293&forum=10&start=45

Latitude 29 opened earlier today with 15 cases, but who knows how long that will last. I would expect they're good into early next year ...

http://latitude29nola.com

Over at Smuggler's Cove, the last I heard from Martin Cate is that he's about to start "tasting, blending and comparing" to come up with a replacement. He has "five decades worth of vintage Lemon Hart 151" at his disposal, so I'm hopeful he'll be able to offer the best advice on how to handle a future without Lemon Hart.

Of course, LH 151 could come back on the market next year and make this whole discussion moot, but I would not count on that happening. On their Facebook page, they seem more concerned with promoting their spiced rum:
https://www.facebook.com/LemonHartRum

And this one two posts down from the other I just quoted:

On 2014-11-14 00:08, Hurricane Hayward wrote:
Lots of discussion on the Ministry of Rum's Facebook group about the Hamilton 151 rum. I don't think you need to be logged into Facebook to read: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152475429388873&set=gm.10152431745482724&type=1&theater

Among the more interesting:

From Ed on Nov. 3:
"It will be another month before it's ready to ship in bottles, but shipping the rum to the bottler is the first of many small steps."

On Nov. 4, he added that there will be distribution in all of the colored states on this map:
http://caribbean-spirits.com

Then he added: "With the intent of being vague, I'll say this Demerara Overproof will have the signature Demerara notes that make Demerara rums unique. Smoky, dark fruit, tobacco, spice."

Looks like it will hit retail stores in early 2015.

So your reply to JenTiki should be "thank you for the help" without the snarkiness
and your welcomed.

[ Edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2014-12-11 06:27 ]

Do you really think a post talking about rum that is not even available for purchase yet is helpful? I've already looked into that rum and you can't buy it anywhere, especially online. I'm not trying to be snarky, it's just that her post was completely unhelpful and rather condescending. Clearly I'm aware of that thread as I have posted in it, and there's very little helpful information in it. Particularly if the original post of this thread is actually read and comprehended. The original post is asking for replacements that are available for purchase online.

I'm done with arguing with people on the internet.

So, if we can get over defending a long time poster who condescendingly told someone with less posts to "use the search function" when she clearly didn't even read the original post, it would be interesting to hear of any suitable existing LH151 replacements that can be purchased online. El Dorado has a 151 as well but through my searches here no one thinkgs its a demerara and weren't particularly pleased with it.

[ Edited by: rockydog101 2014-12-11 07:37 ]

Post #732955 by rockydog101 on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 7:25 AM