Post #810850 by Fourth Wave on Sat, Sep 30, 2023 5:33 PM

I think that people who get in to Tiki want to include stuff in their bars or Tiki spaces that arent Tiki. It is after all quite expensive now and getting more so. I am guilty of this. I am a vet and I have a lot of memorabilia of my time in the forces that is in now way related to the Pacific. If anything more Tora Bora than Bora Bora. My wife likes it as my Man Junk as she calls it is no longer in the house. However I would never call it Tiki. Its not even Tiki adjacent - which I think you could say some of the Star Wars Shag and Geeky Tiki stuff could be accused of being. I make sure if people ask I diferenciate. In fact they are separated. I think we have to stop being so careful of stepping on egg shells here, if it isn't Tiki then its not. If you make it look tiki and try and incorperate it, then its Tiki Adjacent still not Tiki.

How can I be so blunt? Well lets use something completely iconic for arguments sake, take for an example a Ferrari, we all know what one looks like and what it represents. I cant go and stick a prancing horse on a Yugo and call it a ferrari, even though they are European vehicles. So how can you say "This is Tiki" when it isnt never has been and in no way had any roots in Tiki. It may seem fun at first but its watering down something that is quite novel and dear to peoples hearts.

Sven's graph looks simple but is far from it . it is a very well considered diagram. He has done this whilst trying to be inclusive of the new directions as well.