Tiki Central / Tiki Carving
Drying logs without cracking?
Pages: 1 11 replies
Y
Yubaba
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 7:43 AM
I bought a lot of logs a few weeks ago, but a bunch of them have started to split. |
S
Swanky
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:52 AM
I have been told that you want the logs to dry slowly and you want to remove the bark to help them dry. So, I would assume and nice constant temp and humidity would be best, like a basement. But that's not how they do it in the kilns. That's fast drying, so there is somethign else going on. A professional furniture restorer tells me the real problem is the center of the wood. If you could drill out the center of the logs, they would not split. If they are half rounds, then taking the center of the log out of the back would help. He explained that the outer parts of the wood move and change shape as they dry and that actually happens throughout their existence. Even a fully "dried" table, will expand and contract as it gets more and less "wet" as your home does. So, the reason your logs crack is they are attached to this solid center core and have no room to move. If you take out that core, they can expand and contract as they lose or gain moisture and size. The center of your log is still one size as it is still more damp, and the outer part is another size as it gets dry, and they don't move together and you get cracks. So what is the answer? Hell, I don't know! But, if you can get them in a basement and in a controlled enviroment where they will dry slow and even, that's better. Debark them for sure. If you can drill out the center of the log, that's good too, however, if you plan to carve round pieces, you can't exactly do that. If you plan to carve then in half rounds, go ahead and cut them in half and cut out the center of the log. That's probably your best way. Debark the log, split it in half, cut out the core in back and put it in the basement. |
HOK
HOUSE OF KU
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:54 AM
Aloha , The best thing to do is to coat the cut ends of the log with paint or other sealer and let the wood dry slowly through the bark. You might check Notch's thread under redwood log for similar answers... Freddie :tiki: [ Edited by: HOUSE OF KU 2007-03-27 08:56 ] |
LS
Lake Surfer
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 10:23 AM
Its a roll of the dice... depending on your climate. I was reading on Belgium's climate and it sounds like you get as much variety as we do in the Midwest. Even more if you are closer to the water. Even after you think your logs are dry they will act like a sponge. Even after you think your tikis are stained and sealed they will act like a sponge. They will take on moisture and they will dry out. Season after season, year after year. I have things that I carved 5 years ago that are just starting to crack. You can take steps to minimize splitting and cracking. Many have been mentioned. Many times you can do all these and still get cracks and splits. A big part of the whole picture is the type of wood. How tight or loose is the grain? Is the wood very pourous? Some woods dry quicker than others. I've had pieces of ash that never split. Pine dries out quickly and splits easily. Cedar too. Trees hold a lot of moisture. The wood swells. As the wood dries out it looses mass. It pulls back on itself, splits, cracks. Even kiln dried wood cracks and splits and twists. I have some 1" x 2" s that look like corkscrews. They were straight a week ago. I buy wide boards now and cut them down. Best is to keep a lot of wood on hand, start collecting and have it seperated by how long its been seasoned. Use the wood that has dried the longest. Usually by then you can work around cracks and splits and put them to the back. [ Edited by: Lake Surfer 2007-03-27 10:23 ] |
Y
Yubaba
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 7:44 PM
Thanks for the advice Swanky, House of Ku, Lake Surfer. My basement is to warm because of the central heatingsystem installed there. Outside temp has gone up from 45°F to 63°F in a day or two. I was thinking of putting a liquid rubber coat on the ends, maybe it doesn't push as much into the pores? The sudden changes in temperature here in Belgium is one of the main causes. And yes, I am fairly close to the water. Recently I had the sickening pleasure of watching this giant go down at work. [ Edited by: Yubaba 2007-03-27 20:09 ] |
B
Benzart
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:27 PM
Woah, What a tragic thing to witness, sad end to a beautiful lady. |
Y
Yubaba
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:46 PM
I thought it was linden, has a soft pinkish core |
H
hewey
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 8:47 PM
I dare say that log is too far gone - unless you make 3 small tikis! But at least you can try and save future logs. For a log I had (a palm) I taped plastic bags over each end. This worked great, but they went a little moldy. Sanded off no problems though. What happened to the ship to cause that? |
Y
Yubaba
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:17 PM
Aw well, the wood is not lost, I just have to change my plans for this one. The flipped over ship is a Grimaldi Liner called Republica Di Genova. We'll be fishing Italian Salad dressing all year, since about all the cargo went to the sinkhole. |
Y
Yubaba
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:21 PM
The Italian Salad dressing [ Edited by: yubaba 2007-03-28 06:52 ] |
LS
Lake Surfer
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Mar 27, 2007 9:39 PM
Wow. :o I don't even want to begin to imagine how much all that damage is going to add up to. Amazing pictures. Sorry about that log... it does look too far gone. Turning it into three is a good idea. |
Y
Yubaba
Posted
posted
on
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 4:50 PM
I've decided to coat the ends of the logs with a liquid rubber, had a jar left after a roof repair and it seems to work quite wel. I decided to strip the bark and it came of so well it nearly fell out coz' of the juices still in the log. that's about a week ago, hot weather and no cracks yet. |
Pages: 1 11 replies