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Don The Beachcomber Obituary
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Thu, Aug 2, 2007 4:13 AM
I couldn't find this on TC so here it is. From 10 June 1989. Let's raise a glass to Don tonight because we probably didn't do it then. |
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Thu, Aug 2, 2007 4:32 PM
Thank you very much for this interesting yet sad post, Wendy |
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Thu, Aug 2, 2007 4:42 PM
I think it's especially odd that the L.A. Times didn't make more of a big deal that DtB was a chain that began in Hollywood. Perhaps there was a followup story a few days later? |
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Thu, Aug 2, 2007 5:30 PM
A curious thing about the article. Nowhere is the word "Tiki" used. Is it possible that, by 1989, Tiki was so far in decline that the word did not even come to mind when the obit was written? |
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Sun, Aug 5, 2007 5:46 PM
I was surprised to read in the obit that Donn is buried at Punchbowl. It's a beautiful Sunday, so I drove up there. I'll be darned - Donn's grave is just to the left of the flag pole, close to the main gate. Punchbowl cemetery is such a beautiful place: I thanked Donn for the Zombie, and a lot of good times I've had with friends enjoying his creations and inspirations. |
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Sun, Aug 5, 2007 6:49 PM
While we're on the subject...two questions came to mind today while I was reading "Sippin' Safari":
Inquiring mind wants to know. |
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Sun, Aug 5, 2007 8:56 PM
Is that some kind of trick question...? :) If it is not, it hits the nail on the head, and simply shows how nowadays most people have no memory of how utterly devoid America was of Tiki, both the TERM, and the IMAGE, for decades. And of the fact that "Tiki" was never named that, because it had never been recognized and defined as a style. There was NOTHING...NADA...ZILCH out there! You kids think the concept of urban archaeologist came to me as a fluke? That's what it was before the Internet: digging and unearthing and combing the neighborhoods and thrift stores for years! The mere discovery of the the four letters T-I-K-I was a sensational find! There was no memory of it left, to people I talked to it was like a forgotten, hazy dream. This was the case until the mid-90s: In the early years of the Internet, if you would put in the search word "Tiki", you would get TWO results: One for the Baseball player Tiki Barber, and another for some woman's website she had made for her dog named Tiki. Nowadays everybody behaves like it has always been there, to which I can honestly reply: No, it hasn't. It never even "existed" as a pop phenomenon, because it never was taken seriously in its own heyday. It still is like that to a certain degree, being that we are a relatively small group of cookes compared to the big picture, but that does not compare to Tiki's virtual non-existence only 10/15 years ago. Aaaw, kids today, tiz tiz... :) [ Edited by: bigbrotiki 2007-08-05 20:58 ] |
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Sun, Aug 5, 2007 9:43 PM
It's Donn, as in the Godfather. That's what his early regulars referred to him as... Remember all the talk about being a bootlegger, etc. Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will [ Edited by: telescopes 2007-08-05 21:44 ] |
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Sun, Aug 5, 2007 10:03 PM
To be fair to the Times, I don't know that Donn considered himself or his restaurants "Tiki" - the images he seemed to use were much more polynesian- caribbean-nautical as opposed to the tiki-heavy look of Steven Crane's Kon Tiki or even Trader Vic. I just looked at that 1941 menu currently on eBay, and not one drink has a tiki name. His drinks seem to have come in glassware or the ceramic coconut or rum barrel, not a tiki mug. So maybe Don the Beachcomber was the source of tiki, but not particularly tiki itself. Bigbro - I grew up in Rosemead, so I recognize I have a warped perspective, but tiki never disappeared for me. Tiki torches were always called tiki torches, big apartment buildings had lava rocks, bamboo and waterfalls, and there has always been a Bahooka. |
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Sun, Aug 5, 2007 10:39 PM
You are correct on all counts, Sir: "To be fair to the Times, I don't know that Donn considered himself or his restaurants "Tiki" - the images he seemed to use were much more polynesian- caribbean-nautical.... I just looked at that 1941 menu currently on eBay, and not one drink has a tiki name." --See Book of Tiki, page 46, the Evolution of Polynesian Pop: Don the Beachcomber was created in the PRE-Tiki era, which lasted until the 1950s. Before Steve Crane and Tiki Bob's, there never was a mention of the term Tiki, or Tiki Mug (exception: Trader Vic's Tiki Bowl) " I grew up in Rosemead, so I recognize I have a warped perspective, but tiki never disappeared for me." " Tiki torches were always called tiki torches" "big apartment buildings had lava rocks, bamboo and waterfalls" "and there has always been a Bahooka." And I know you are an exception, but people drove by these places and did not see them. It was the great Tiki memory loss in the consensus consciousness. |
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Mon, Aug 6, 2007 6:19 PM
Koolau, thanks for visiting Don's final resting place and sharing the pics. |
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Mon, Aug 6, 2007 6:22 PM
Tiki Barber retired last season so hopefully we'll less and less of his sports memorabilia when you do an ebay "tiki" search. |
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latimes.com Don the Beachcomber helped launch wave of Polynesian restaurants When the owner opened his Hollywood eatery in 1937, he was gambling that in those Depression years diners would enjoy spending a few hours in a South Seas fantasy world. By Steve HarveySpecial to the Los Angeles Times May 1, 2011 advertisement Nobody knows why Ernest Raymond Beaumont Gantt decided to call his restaurant Don the Beachcomber. Maybe he just thought Ernest the Beachcomber wouldn't roll off the tongue quite as easily. In fact, as his Hollywood eatery and watering hole became famous in the years after its 1937 founding, he would change his own name, first to Donn Beach-Comber, then to Donn Beach. He would also play a key role in introducing Polynesian restaurants and tiki bars to America. "If you can't get to paradise, I'll bring it to you," Beach liked to say. As a young man, Beach had sailed around the globe, working odd jobs on steamships while developing a love for the South Pacific. When he landed in Hollywood, he found work as a bootlegger and speakeasy proprietor until the repeal of Prohibition. Then he opened a new style of restaurant, gambling that in those Depression years diners would enjoy spending a few hours in a South Seas fantasy world, amid tiki carvings, thatched roofs, bamboo furniture and rain falling on the roof. He graciously supplied the rain, produced from a garden hose, theorizing that drinkers tended to hang around for another round if it was pouring outside. While "demon rum" had long been derided as a cheap intoxicant, Beach popularized it with such colorful concoctions as the Zombie, the Missionary's Downfall and the Vicious Virgin. The Zombie —- so named for the trance-like state it induced in imbibers — contained the equivalent of more than three shots of the demon stuff; Beach, ever the marketer, decreed that customers would be limited to two per person. He also claimed to have introduced the mai tai — Tahitian for "good" or "best" — an accomplishment that was disputed by a later rival, Vic Bergeron, founder of Trader Vic's. A New York newspaperman became a regular at Beach's restaurant and touted it to such stars as Charlie Chaplin, Marlene Dietrich and David Niven, who hung out at the Beachcomber on McCadden Place, just a few blocks from Beach's old speakeasy. Beach's career was interrupted by overseas service in World War II, and upon his return he found that his wife had expanded the operation from two to six restaurants. Beach wasn't as ambitious and they divorced. She acquired the restaurants in the United States, so he moved to Hawaii (not yet a state) and opened his own Don the Beachcomber. Its most famous regular was a myna bird that chirped, "Give me a beer, stupid." Beach died in 1989 at the age of 81. Over the years, the restaurants passed through a series of owners, and most have disappeared. Today, a hotel on the island of Hawaii owns one Beachcomber. Another, in Huntington Beach, is owned by former Los Angeles City Councilman Art Snyder. Snyder became involved because his wife, Delia, knew the Beach family. He bought the rights to the name and in 2009 turned Sam's Seafood on Pacific Coast Highway into a Beachcomber. The interior is a replica of Beach's creations. "I had a customer from Florida the other day, an older lady, who was amazed at how similar it was to the original," said bartender Robert DeMoss. The same drinks are served, including the Zombie (still limited to two to a customer), in the Dagger Bar. The somewhat intimidating bar name refers to a piece of World War II booty, a reproduction of an imperial Roman-style Puglia knife that Beach brought back from Italy. It has had an interesting after-life. Sometime in the 1950s, a bartender who had been fired stole the dagger from Beach. Its whereabouts were unknown for half a century until the bartender's son sent a note to Snyder. The son wrote that his father had kept the dagger "in a wooden box in the closet and never talked about it. Before he died, he finally opened it up and showed it to me." The son said he didn't want his children to think that Grandpa was a thief, so he returned the dagger to Snyder on the condition that Snyder "never give my name or my father's away.... I hope I never see it again.'' The dagger, locked in a glass case, now hangs on the wall behind Snyder's Beachcomber bar, out of the reach of Zombie drinkers. |
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Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:38 PM
I just found another piece of the Donn Beach story that I haven't seen in print before. I've posted it on my local history blog at Chris |
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Wed, Jul 10, 2013 10:44 PM
Aloha, Yes, I'll be going by tomorrow. Probably around 9:33 AM after work... |
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Thu, Jul 11, 2013 2:39 AM
Great thread . . . |
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Thu, Jul 11, 2013 2:59 PM
Very cool!
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Thu, Jul 11, 2013 10:02 PM
Hey Roberts did you go? I went around noon. Thanks Koolau for this cool location. I had to go. Here's a pic (the plot is on the left about four rows in from the corner and next to the curb and the grand American flag & pole on the right. |
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Thu, Jul 11, 2013 10:10 PM
Sailor Jerry is also buried there, as well as many other notables. |
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Sun, Jul 14, 2013 6:04 PM
I notice the obituary says he was from New Orleans. His ex-wife, Phoebe, claimed he was from Texas, as does Wikipedia. |
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Tue, Aug 20, 2013 6:13 PM
I was rather unsurprised today when I discovered that Donn Beach died from liver cancer. :drink: :drink: :drink: T-shirts based on vintage tiki matchbooks: TikiTees [ Edited by: TikiTacky 2013-08-20 18:13 ] |
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