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Mauna Loa, Detroit, MI (bar)
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Name:Mauna Loa Description: The Mauna Loa is likely the least talked about extinct tiki restaurant there is. Search any engine for information, and nothing appears. It's as if it never existed. But in its day it was one of the most lavish, expensive and spectacular Polynesian palaces of the Midwest, if not all of North America. Located on a man-made lagoon at 3077 West Grand Boulevard and Cass Avenue in Detroit's New Center area, it was surrounded by palm trees, swaying, waving, and beckoning swanky Detroiters of the late 60's to come inside to another world. Mr. Tikifish took me to pay homage to the site where it once used to be, but we found nothing there, not even the building shell. After The Mauna Loa closed, new owners opened an American seafood restaurant there, but apparently it caught fire and had to be demolished. The site of this once proud South Seas supper club is now the St. Regis hotel parking lot. The Interior: The Monkey Bar: The Bombay Room: The Papeete Room, the Tonga Room, the Lanai Room and the Maui Room: The Mugs and Other Dinnerware: The Mauna Loa mugs were specially designed for the restaurant. I know of four: The Polynesian Pidgeon: Bob's Rum Barrel: The Coconut: The Signature Mug: The Salt and Pepper Drums The Sugar Bowl - A squat, round brown ceramic tiki head with lid. Bottom reads 'Design by Mauna Loa Detroit'. The Menu: Shanghai Crab Roll 1.85 Delightful, Exotic Dessert Presentations Hawaiian Snow Ball 1.25 Captain Bob's Banana Boat Flambe 1.25 Orange Blossom Flambe 1.25 Mauna Loa of Snow with Fresh Fruit Article from The Bay City Times, Sunday August 20 1967 BAY CITIAN WAS ART DIRECTOR-DECORATOR - PHOTO BAY CITIAN HELPS DESIGN 'MAUNA LOA' - ARTICLE A former Bay Citian can confirm the authenticity of the elaborate Polynesian décor of Detroit's newest, luxurious restaurant, the Mauna Loa.
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I found this article in the microfiche files at the Detroit library after searching all of 1967, looking for something on the Mauna Loa. I warn you,the writer goes off tiki-topic every once in a while, but I still think this is a spectacular vintage news find. The photos from the article aren't of very good quality but I will post them later... or maybe I should keep them for my own site so people will still have a reason to go there... I am giving away the farm here!!! The Detroit News, August 20, 1967 Money lenders take a cynical view of the chances for success of a plush restaurant . Loans to build them often are backstopped with demands, that the building be designed in such a manner that it may be converted into another use. The restaurant will cost 1.6 million when all the bills are paid for such things as imported lamps, weatherised palm trees, ($1,500 each), authentic South Pacific artifacts, lutes and indoor waterfalls and pools. "We beleive it is the most expensive restaurant ever built of it's kind in the Midwest:, says Fenton. "But we don't have a doubt that it will not be supported in Detroit". One of the contractors pointed out that if it does fail the structure is so designed that it can be converted into an office building. The interior decorations would be yanked out, the waterfalls dammed and the two-level building divided up into offices. But what a shame, say most people who already have dined in the place which opened last week. And thus would collapse the heady dream Fenton has been dreaming since 1964. A partner in the law firm of Fenton, Nederlander, Tracy, and Dodge, the restaurantbusinessis a new venture for the tax and corporation law specialist who six years ago parlayed his friendship with golf pro Walter Burkemo into a career managing sports celebrities. "It was about six years ago that Wally Burkemo, then the pro at Franklin Hills, gave me a hurry-up call," recalls Fenton, a University of Michigan Graduate. "He was coming on strong in the National Open, and tolk me he was beseiged by offers to endorse things in case he won. Wally wanted me to handle the negotiations. I flew to the course. But he blew a couple of putts and ended up fourth or something and some of the offers faded away. But he wanted me to handle his investments. That was the beginning." Fenton, who speaks several languages including Russian, says that a few years ago Al Kaline heard about tax benefits that could come from such things as deferred compensation programs, and wanted him to handle his contracts. "The word spread in sports circles," said Fenton, an intelligence officer for the air force in the Korean War. " A Few years ago these big sports stars were spending their money as if it was water. Then they started thinking about salting some of it away when they got too old to play. One word led to another and pretty soon about 15 top stars were letting me handle their contracts." Includued were such people as Roger Maris, Pat Studstill, Carl Sweetan, Marty Pavelich and the others now in the Mauna Loa syndicate. Fenton's labors for the spots figures not only include helping them get new and sweeter contracts, but advising them how to invest their surplus money. It was his roster of celebrities that led to the reaization of the Mauna Loa. "Hank Aguirre thought perhaps a Mexican restaurant would be better, but Hank's Mexican and partial to that food. Finally everyone, including Hank, wanted to take a slice. We found other business and professional people here who also agreed to invest and that's the way it started." Fenton's idea, based on exhaustive reseach, was to build a place so exotically plush it would dazzle Detroit diners. Once eyes get accustomed to the romantic darkness of the interior as conceived by Florian Gabriel, the decorator, M. George Nakashima and George Pelham Head, the designers, the sight indeed is quite bedazzling. Sounds are muted by heavy rattan ceilings and pandanus leaf walls. For more than a year Fenton's law office in the Guardian Building became the stagin building for the restaurant, Special crockery, silverware and trays were stored in one section of the offices awaiting a building. Fenton has been beset by labor problems, material shotages, and other headaches. He expected to have the place open in May. "Key personnel such as Joe Spada, his "mixologist" who carries the secret recipes for exotic rum-based drinks in his head; John S. Karydes ,catering manager, B. F. Enriquez, for erly of Washington's Mayflower Hotel, now assistant manager of the Mauna Loa, Kurt Mecklenburg, a volatile west german chef and Jimmy Mark, a goateed chinese cook, have been on the payroll for months. His General, manager, Jerome L. Cohen, former manager of Chicago;s Playboy Club, was assig ed a year ago. Cohen also is an investor. "To get these men", says Fenton, "we had to hire them even if we didn't have a restaurant ready" For the past several weeks, he has lived at Mauna Loa, named after a live Hawaiian volcano, he had to get his meals elsewhere, Pots in the huge stainles steel kitchen did not start bubbling tilll last tuesday. But the lighted waterfalls flowing from nearly every corner and even behind the huge bar, romantic lights glowing from stuffed blowfish, shells and papier mache globes, werre a welcoming sight to Fenton and his associates, Before it oopened Fenton reflected some of his apprehension by interviewing passersby watching workmen put finishing touches on the Mauna Loa's entrance. "Do you think it will be a good place?" he asked a pair of secretaries who work at the General Motors Bilding, across the street. "Well, it ought to be" replied one, "i hear it cost $21 million to build"."That shook me a little", says Fenton, "because if the public gets the idea it cist so much to build the prices will be to high for such peoople as the secretaries and workingmen to eat"."Our idea is just the opposite. We made it lavish". continues Fenton. "a shopwpiece to attract people, but the food prices will not be any higher than an ordinary restaurant" HE pointed to an 8 page menu listing such esoteric far east foods as cha Siu, Avaku Pillow, and Napuka Fishfang, carrying price tabs of $1.75 to $2.00. The high ticket foods will be the traditional American steaks, the restauarant will feature far east foods, but there also will be gourmet dishes from all parts of europe and the United States. "Building a restaurant has been an education for all of us." - Fenton mused as he stalked through the dimly lighted dining areas, crossing bridges over strweams created by the water gushing over real lava. Chances are good that Fenton,l exhaustedfrom months of tension, will take a breather. When the doors finally opened last Tuesday, Fenton sighed and reckoned he now knows what it feels like to be a mother. |
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Thu, Jul 24, 2003 10:13 PM
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Thu, Jul 24, 2003 10:55 PM
I do beleive if it had survived it would have been on par with the Mai Kai and the Kahiki, if not surpassed it... Just another Detrot tragedy... |
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Sat, Jul 26, 2003 2:47 PM
Those are some great vintage articles on the Mauna Loa ! Thanks for posting those & all the great in depth info. Here's a few menus from the Mauna Loa: |
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Sat, Jul 26, 2003 6:04 PM
I have a copy of the 2nd one but the first one is beeeyooteeful! I had not seen that before. Is it just the same menu, different cover? I wouldn't mind peeking inside! |
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Mon, Jul 28, 2003 9:58 AM
Here's some pics of the inside of that first Mauna Loa menu: |
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Tue, Jul 29, 2003 7:19 AM
Thankyou!!! I always wanted to see what the main courses were. The 'Foods from other lands' is quite a surprise! |
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Sun, May 13, 2007 3:47 PM
A rare find. Mauna Loa matchbook found in the wild in a big ol' jar of matches. Anyone else found any of these before? |
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Thu, Jan 3, 2008 8:14 AM
I find this interesting. The Mauna Loa cost $2.25 million in 1967 to build. In 2006 dollars, that's $13.5 million. To compare, a typical Cheesecake Factory costs about $3 million to build at 11,000 square feet, which is considered expensive by today's standards. That gives you a sense of what it cost to build these huge tiki palaces build back in the day, versus the cost saving generic boxes they build today. |
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Thu, Jan 3, 2008 8:39 AM
I am from Detroit born and raised in fact I lived right down the street from where this place was and had never heard of it before. A real Detroit tragedy to be sure.Imagine a restaurant that cost that much to build in the sixties. I sell lighted palm trees these days that can cost 1,500 each. |
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Thu, Jan 3, 2008 1:46 PM
Here's my small tribute to the Mauna Loa. I know a few more folks have some other great items as well. All we need now are some interior or exterior photos! It was only open for such a short time it has almost turned into a ghost. This is the perfect time of year for digging around in the local libraries and newspaper archives for some hidden treasure. I'd love to do some digg'n myself but Detroit is a far poke for a day trip. |
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Thu, Jan 3, 2008 2:46 PM
That's because it existed for barely two years or so. The Mauna Loa is the prime example of how much the cost of building a Polynesian Palace and doing it right had risen by 1967. That and the fact that there was no rich Hilton or Sheraton hotel chain behind it, PLUS the fact that the Tiki trend was on its way out, ...PLUS the downtown riots, made the place go bankrupt pretty quickly. That is why any ephemera from it are so rare. I don't think they ever had time to even print postcards. I have never seen one. Also notice how the matchbook artistry of the 50s was becoming extinct. Uncle Trav, you have been such a valiant and active contributor of Tiki archeology here on TC, here ya go: These are from a restaurant magazine from the O.A. archives. I heard a rumor from Leroy that after the Mauna Loa group went bankrupt, someone tried to run it as a Safari-style place, serving wild game like monkey and ostrich...didn't last either. That would have been THE bankruptcy sale of the century to attend. WHERE did all those carvings go !!? I know that the Chin Tiki took over the bar with the embedded Chinese coins and put it up in their upstairs lounge, but that was all I recognized there....hey LightedPalmTreeGuy, is the Chin Tiki building still standing? Someone should document it's destruction. |
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Thu, Jan 3, 2008 3:07 PM
I got the rather fragile black tiki mugfrom the Mauna Loa a couple years ago and then just recently got the S&P's along with green and red swizzles. Seeing those pictures makes you realize the extent of the loss, it also seems strange how a place like this and the great Kahiki were only 3 or 4 hours away from each other. Anybody got a time machine? |
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Thu, Jan 3, 2008 5:28 PM
Thanks for the kind words Bigbro. And those pictures WOW!!! I would have loved to be there it it's prime. Thanks again. |
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Wed, Jan 9, 2008 9:50 AM
Here are some of the Mauna Loa pieces I have in my collection. The 4' tiki was found on Craigslist in Detroit. Person I bought it from said that at one time they had many more, but most were rotten, so they got rid of them. Aaaarrrggg!!! Notice that on both sides there is a hole where a bamboo railing would probably go into. The magazine scan came thanks to Bob and Leroy over at O.A. Two different matchbooks. Drum and Cauldron mug [ Edited by: Chub 2008-01-09 09:54 ] [ Edited by: chub 2008-01-09 13:09 ] |
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Wed, Jan 9, 2008 10:22 AM
Nice!!! :) |
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Wed, Jan 9, 2008 1:49 PM
Damn Chub!!! Nice collection you have going there. I see that the post you have is shown on Bigbro's post on page 1. Man I'd love to find one of those to put in the "Ceremonial Garden" down in my lounge. I'd have to add on a bit though to make room. Vintage Michigan is hard to come by these days. Thanks for posting. |
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Wed, Jan 16, 2008 10:01 AM
I'll field this one, bigbro. It was still there on Monday, but there's a construction fence around it and the adjacent buildings, so the time might be nigh. I happened to ride the "People Mover" for the first time when I was just there, and you can see it from the train, too (for now.) So, this must be the bar that's turned up at Livonia Chin's, then. Had a Mai Tai on it recently and didn't know its history went beyond Chin Tiki. TT |
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Wed, Jan 16, 2008 12:08 PM
Oh really, it went to Chin's? It's a huge f#$%in' bar, right? With Chinese coins embedded in resin? That must have been quite a moving job to get it over to Livonia.... Well if they got that thing out of there, it proves that the the Chin Tiki must be an empty shell by now. They must be sitting on a bunch of cool Witco. Wonder where all the plastic plants went. The difficulty with getting pictures of a Tiki temple being torn down is that no one knows what day the wreckers will do it. Wonder if there is some kind of permit office that can give that info... |
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Wed, Jan 16, 2008 1:43 PM
the chins livonia location is way too small to house the whole thing..they must have cut a part of it out and installed it that way...any witco and tiki worth salvaging is already either in the chins livonia location or being stored in marlin chins garage at his house (according to marlin himself)...i doubt there's anything left worth salvaging from the place except moldy plastic plants. The chins are well aware of the collectability of tiki stuff and i don't think they left any behind. |
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Fri, Jan 18, 2008 10:28 AM
Here's a pic of the Mauna Loa as it still was standing in the mid-late 1970's. I'm guessing by the car out front, it could even be the 1980's. Sad to see it with the facade falling off and a For Sale sign on it. The Mauna Loa was torn down ( not sure what year)for the expansion of the St. Regis Hotel next door. [ Edited by: Chub 2008-01-18 10:30 ] |
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Mon, Jan 21, 2008 8:35 AM
Well, it's just a piece of it then. It does have the Chinese coins embedded in the top. Maybe someone local can elucidate. TT |
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Thu, Jan 24, 2008 10:11 AM
OK, when I was about 8 or 9, my folks took me and my sister to the Mauna Loa. It was a big deal because it was EXPENSIVE and we drove 3 and half hours from Battle Creek to do it. You can't imagine how excited my crazy dad was to take us there. There was a river inside. There was a deep pool where on one night a week a diver would dive for pearls. I definitely had a drink in a pineapple. This is not the kind of thing we did often. I am so sad to hear that it is completely gone. I don't know what made me Google the Mauna Loa today. I'm really glad I did. I'll ask my mom (the only one of us besides me who is still living) what else she remembers about it. Wow. |
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Thu, Jan 24, 2008 10:16 AM
OK, when I was about 8 or 9, my folks took me and my sister to the Mauna Loa. It was a big deal because it was EXPENSIVE and we drove 3 and half hours from Battle Creek to do it. You can't imagine how excited my crazy dad was to take us there. There was a river inside. There was a deep pool where on one night a week a diver would dive for pearls. I definitely had a drink in a pineapple. This is not the kind of thing we did often. I am so sad to hear that it is completely gone. I don't know what made me Google the Mauna Loa today. I'm really glad I did. I'll ask my mom (the only one of us besides me who is still living) what else she remembers about it. Wow. |
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Thu, Jan 24, 2008 11:13 AM
when i met george nakashima, the architect (a year before he died) , i asked about the mauna loa...i guess it was only open for 8 months before it closed...there were too many investors and people involved with the place from the beginning...they started to lose money rapidly due to some of the folks embezzling money directly from the place and also giving away alot of free food, drinks, and such favors to friends, politicians, celebrites etc....eventually the place imploded on itself and went bankrupt...but, man that must have been some swinging time to be a regular there for those 8 months....imagine all the scandalous stuff you could have witnessed or even been involved in!! chins bought a bunch of stuff from the mauna loa during the auction...some of which was never used in chins, but just kept in storage... [ Edited by: Tipsy McStagger 2008-01-24 11:14 ] |
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Sun, Feb 3, 2008 7:26 AM
Just wodering if anyone on TC had a copy of the drink menu from the Mauna Loa. If so could they share some good phtos or scans. Would be great to see. Thanks |
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Sun, Feb 3, 2008 8:59 PM
There is a "lunch menu" from the restaurant on the bay right now, (not my auction), up in 22 days, with a buy it now for $100. Too much for me, but maybe someone here may want it? |
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Mon, Feb 4, 2008 11:11 AM
Trav, I dug up this only slide I have, for you. I remember this being the page that featured the most theme mugs: |
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Mon, Feb 4, 2008 3:55 PM
Look at those prices. I'm really enjoying all this digging |
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Thu, Feb 7, 2008 4:24 PM
I had always assumed that my green, 3-faced lamp was from a Steve Crane location, but I guess it's safe to say it's a Mauna Loa piece as it was found in the Detroit area. -Z |
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Tue, Mar 18, 2008 2:21 PM
Some more pictures I found on the net. These are from the Detroit News Archives held by Wayne State University. |
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Tue, Mar 18, 2008 2:44 PM
Hey!!!!!! Great stuff Tatto. Thanks for posting. |
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Tue, Mar 18, 2008 11:46 PM
Chub like what Tattoo find! Detroit Tiki is good. [ Edited by: Chub 2008-03-18 23:47 ] |
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Sat, Apr 5, 2008 8:51 AM
Hi Guys, It's funny that I found this forum! I Googled it after my grandmother gave me these 10 odd looking glasses. She said it was from an old restaraunt she went to in Detroit a LOOONG time ago (30-40 years ago). So now I have these 7 mint codition tiki cups right from Mauna Loa with the sticker on em and everything. Its such a joy to read the history of this really cool restaraunt and its sad that it no longer exists. Here is a pic of the glasses. Should I try putting them on ebay? If anyone is interested in purchasing these, shoot me an email! [email protected] [ Edited by: jmack 2008-04-05 08:52 ] |
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Sat, Apr 5, 2008 1:29 PM
You most likely made some people really happy with this find, I hope Trav, Chub and Tatoo got some of them. |
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Sun, Apr 6, 2008 10:38 AM
Ya know bigbro... if I didn't happen to find one myself 2 weeks ago, I'd almost feel left out :P |
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008 8:18 AM
I got little curious about this photo and did a little messing around with it. Sorry about the color but this was the best way to see the relief panels on the exterior of the building. Thought it was interesting. Thanks. |
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Sun, Apr 13, 2008 10:23 AM
Nice. I am planning to include various modernist concrete patterns (this one, Chin Tiki, Trader's Beverly Hills, etc.) in my "Look of Tiki" book |
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Wed, May 14, 2008 7:18 PM
To be fair, I posted it up on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200224246589 |
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Thu, May 15, 2008 8:38 PM
So Jmack, you sign up to tikicentral just to offer a mug to us here first; we respond by email, but get no response from you what so ever, and then you just put it up on ebay. Thanks dude! Hope the auction works out for you. PS. This isn't the right place to be posting about ebay listings. |
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Fri, May 16, 2008 1:06 PM
Chub, same here happened to me. Thought maybe the email got lost in space. And what about all the other mugs. Only one? |
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Thu, May 29, 2008 9:00 PM
oh sorry, i just got flooded guys.. i didnt get a chance to respond to everyone, which is why i just came back here... i posted another one up here... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200228042237 |
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Thu, May 29, 2008 9:33 PM
jmack please keep your commercials out of Locating Tiki. Don't worry people will still find your items for sale via any one of the other posts you've left. Thank you. |
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Fri, Jan 2, 2009 2:07 PM
I figured I would add this picture here as this was a great post until the eBay offers and mug talk came into it so let's get it back on track. I came across this item and thought I would put a picture of it here. Back of plate. Maker Marked: You might be thinking the same as me, just because it came from the estate of someone who worked there, how do we know it was actually something used there or sold?? It looks like it could be possible as the frog is a symbol that was used by a few different Pacific cultures. At first I thought it looked quite Native American but I am not an expert. Mahalo, TabooDan |
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Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:01 AM
Hi Dan. Nice find. I don't think it was from The Mauna Loa Detroit though. The design looks like North West area Native American to me also. I did some digging on Mayer China and the number "261" is a date code. 2 being the second quarter of the year and 61 being 1961. The Mauna Loa opened in 1967. As far as I know they marked every thing with their name. Anything to do with the Mauna Loa is always worth checking out. Here's a plate posted by Sabu in the colecting tiki thread. Thanks for posting the plate. "Anyone who has ever seen them is thereafter haunted as if by a feverish dream" Karl Woermann [ Edited by: uncle trav 2009-01-03 05:10 ] |
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Sat, Jan 3, 2009 5:39 AM
And I see the same pattern plate is out on Ebay right now also from the estate of a former cook. |
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Sat, Jan 3, 2009 2:16 PM
Hey Uncletrav, yeh, that's where I saw this one. I did not purchase one. I just thought it was an interesting piece. Good research on the maker info! I was hoping someone would do this and with that information, I would say for sure it is not a plate that was actually used at the Mauna Loa. TabooDan |