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Tiki Stars Walk of Fame (or as close as I could get)
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 11:10 AM
Again with Brooke Shields ?? !! I got your number MDM. :D Dude, I don't thing anything good came out of the 1980's (as it relates to Tiki). |
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 12:44 PM
I beg to differ...Although not 100 percent on board with tiki, this show was awesome and from the 1980s. It embodied the illusionary views of the South Pacific quite fine, including entire bar scenes made of bamboo, savages, wild beasts, adventure and treasure. It was truly the Indiana Jones of the early 1980s, and probably was a perfect footprint leading into the legendary Jones. Sure it was still cheesy, but so was Gilligan's Island! |
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 1:03 PM
I found it to be a poorly written and cheap "Indiana Jones" knockoff myself So I concur with John-O here. |
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Tom Slick
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 1:18 PM
I stand corrected, chuck! At least as far as the timeline goes. I was under the impression that TOTGM came before Indiana Jones. After researching further, I discovered that Tales was indeed seemingly a knockoff of Indy. But as far as 1982 goes, this was pretty much as good as it got with relation to tropical South Pacific Glamourization on TV. Anyhow, I dug and found that this TV show was not mentioned; |
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 1:29 PM
well I do remember watching Miami Vice :) |
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 1:41 PM
Well, considering that the Indiana Jones franchise was a knockoff in it's own right, what's the big deal? Secret of the Incas (1954) Starring Charlton Heston And this film has more of a Tiki connection than Indy as it features Exotica siren Yma Sumac. Bear [ Edited by: Brudda Bear 2011-06-03 14:07 ] |
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 2:48 PM
And HWOF star Chuck Heston did have his own South Seas resume...
Not the most exciting in terms of Tiki trivia but let me throw this out as Question #4... What 3 degrees of separation does Charlie have to the ONLY Tropical cocktail invented in Polynesia ? Here's a hint: [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2011-06-03 15:14 ] |
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 4:25 PM
OK, I'll play a round, wait, how about a double header? John Wayne and Gail Russell in: Wake of the Red Witch
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:18 PM
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JOHN-O
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 5:19 PM
What, no one wants to bite ?? :( OK, here's the Tiki connection. Clark Gable owned a Tiki bar !! Well, Pre-Tiki anyway.
Here's what Beachbum Berry wrote about it in "Sippin' Safari"..."When MGM shot 'Mutiny on the Bounty' in 1935, they built a Tahitian village on the far side of Catalina Island. Cast and crew were marooned there for four months, so Clark Gable bankrolled a bar to avoid another, unscripted mutiny. Named after Gable's character in the film, Christian's Hut remained open after the shoot, when Ray (Buhen, later of Tiki-Ti fame) was hired to tend bar there." Here's the TC thread with more images... http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=28251&forum=2 [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2011-06-03 17:28 ] |
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 6:48 PM
'The Mutiny on the Bounty', the greatest non-tiki but vaguely tiki related story ever told! |
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Bora Boris
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 7:12 PM
It's my thread so I'm putting the Late James Arness on for co-starring in a movie I've never seen but want to see now. |
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 7:57 PM
James Arness! if there is a SciFi connection to this all, then "Thing from another World" & "Them" |
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JOHN-O
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 8:23 PM
Well because Brudda Bear did bring up Charlton Heston (and I do want to make EVERY "star" TC relevent)...
What no takers here either ?? Hmmm….. This whole Tiki trivia angle isn't working as well as I expected. :( Ok here' s the 3 degrees…
What was that doctor's name? Dr. Funk !! There's your Tiki connection. So if that flawless Tiki logic isn't good enough for you ( :D ), how about this?… Beachbum Berry created a Tropical drink which he named... "Planet of the Apes" !! (Remixed, pg 54) Oh and this is Chuck's reaction when he went to visit the Kahiki in Ohio. And found it was razed to make room for Walmart. :( [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2011-06-03 20:35 ] |
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Fri, Jun 3, 2011 9:38 PM
Heston, Another SciFi connection. |
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 10:20 AM
Tiki Trivia Question #5... What Tiki connection do Ava Gardner, Lana Turner, and Rita Hayworth share?" |
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:31 AM
GROG hope this is the last of the trivia questions. |
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 1:50 PM
Is it Beach Samba? John-O, or did they all babysit Kevin Bacon at one time? [ Edited by: Chuck Tatum is Tiki 2011-06-05 13:53 ] |
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Bora Boris
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 2:38 PM
They all spent some time on Steve Crane's wee wee? :lol: |
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 2:41 PM
Here's the answer Chuck... Stephen Crane, who was owner of the Luau restaurant in Beverly Hills. He was "The Man Who Loved Women". And the Luau was arguably (??) where Tiki-style was first originated. And as documented in BOT… "…Steve show(ed) up three consecutive nights with Ava Garnder, Rita Hayworth, and Lana Turner." "This town's top three queens ! I never saw anyone do that." ...as the owner of Ciro's nightclub remarked. He was Poly-Pop's original mack daddy !! (And a one-time Mr. Lana Turner). EDIT - Bora Boris answered the question 2 minutes prior to this post so he gets the Tiki credit. Boris, I'm updating your entry in my TC Excel spreadsheet. :) [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2011-06-05 14:46 ] |
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Bora Boris
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 2:43 PM
So what did I win? :) |
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Bora Boris
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 2:46 PM
Excellent! Thank you. |
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Chuck Tatum is Tiki
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 2:52 PM
So there is a Tiki Spreadsheet? |
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JOHN-O
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:43 PM
Actually just for GROG I wanted to do one last HWOF Tiki trivia question. The problem is none of the "answers" to my remaining clever questions actually have stars on the Walk of Fame. Guys like this got cheated in Hollywood :(... |
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Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:50 PM
Who is "Hung Lo?" [ Edited by: GROG 2011-06-05 23:50 ] |
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Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:51 PM
Wally Boag,the voice of Jose in the Enchanted Tiki Room, passed away last Friday (June 3, 2011). |
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Wed, Jun 15, 2011 11:41 PM
Sven, just HAD to share this one. Was reading liner notes from CD reissues of Herb Alpert today and found this nugget from none other than Josh Kun professor of English at UC Riverside and author of Audiotopia who has written articles for NY Times, LA Times, and Village Voice: talking about Herb's place in Pop culture history in relation to the impact of his music versus the culture at the time of its release: While not Tiki per se, obviously the only legit extension of the Tiki ethos. |
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Thu, Jun 16, 2011 12:03 AM
Otto, What is the time line on Herb Alpert's era of influence, 1966 to mid 1970s? |
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Thu, Jun 16, 2011 11:05 PM
From the release of Lonely Bull as a top ten hit single in 1962, to "Casino Royale" in 1967, to #1 hit "This Guy's in Love with You". over 72 million records sold. |
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Fri, Jul 26, 2013 5:29 PM
Most frustrating thread I ever read. 99% of the picts don't show which leaves one out in the cold for 90% of the discussion. Probably good that this thread is old, I would of been a pain contributing to it. Simply just go to this link that John-0 hinted about for hall of fame stars in South Seas films or what we call Beach of Fame, I think I'll throw on some star fish on this page. One will find a lot of A-listers there as well as many legends. http://www.southseascinema.org/beachoffame.html [ Edited by: creativenative 2013-07-26 17:33 ] |
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Bora Boris
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Fri, Jul 26, 2013 5:52 PM
That's weird? I just looked through all the pages and all of the pictures came up. Please try again. |
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Fri, Jul 26, 2013 10:36 PM
All pictures work for GROG also. |
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Mon, Jul 29, 2013 5:28 PM
Yes I see the images now, must have been on my smart phone at the time with limited data transfer. Anyway and as I expected now seeing the picts (I’m an image guy) this thread went from frustrating to fascinating. Too old to comment on and it probably not PC to write on my PC of posts way in the past but I love to at least comment on a hand full of items found throughout this thread: Agreed Big Brother on European film posters and will add more today on: http://www.southseascinema.org/images.html on bottom of page. Check it out later today. Don’t forget Jim Backus was also Mr. Magoo. Nice catch on the Godzilla star Chuck Tatum. I think I just posted recently that I fulfilled a bucket list and was chased by Godzilla in Waikiki couple of weeks ago. Screw the bulls run in Spain, that’s for babies wearing pink panties. Being chased by a 300ft kaiju is waaay better. Yes, in the latest Godzilla he or she makes a stop in the Hawaiian islands. Can’t wait to see it and if I made the final cut. The Japanese had a big thing with Nuclear tests in the Pacific and the creation of kaiju monsters out of these tests was huge in their mid-century film history. Maybe not an American thing but we did love those films as much as our own mid-century UFO saucer films only difference was our sci-fis did not have tiki their’s did. Besides the Moai in MOTHRA that was already pointed out see: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=302&forum=1&start=420 and one more on the next page. One of my first posts on TC. Bela Lugosi was in 3 South Seas films and one serial, none as Dracula. Here he is at small luau in BELA LUGOSI MEETS THE BROOKLYN GORILLA Liberace Hawaiian Special Nice images (now that I can see them) from Jonpaul, John-O, DC and others Most of my above comments were of a “South Seas” and a foreign nature not of true mid-century tiki American pop style so there is no need to republish BOT Big Brother to add a chapter. Lastly we all know the decline of tiki in the 70s and 80s and yes there was a decline in the “South Seas” film genre because of the huge upswing in the use of TV sets in America’s living rooms. But film did continue in the 80s. Here is a list of “South Seas” films of note during that period. ALOHA SUMMER (1988) SAM GOLDWYN JR w Chris Makepeace: *1980s was also a huge decade for the New Zealand film industry with lease a dozen good films centered on Polynesian cultures. Popular thought on TC about this “South Seas” films was that this genre died off when Pearl Harbor was attached, not true, although the 30s and early 40s produced classic South Seas cinema the genre continued during the war and post war, until today. Yes the classic “South Seas” stories and island settings have went into a decline and also a devolution like tiki, but some good films still pop occasionally like THE PIANO or WHALE RIDER. Also “South Seas” genre is not limited to features, it’s all entertainment mass media of motion film, video or newer digital formats. For example in the 70s, like TV in general, the popularity of “South Seas” TV was at it‘s heyday with 9 series of note set in the Pacific, 14 special “South Seas” episodes from hit TV series and 20 “South Seas” TV-movies or mini-series. Like mid century Polynesian Pop western tiki culture the "South Seas" genre lives on amongst fakes and want-a-bees or by those producers who just don't get what the original was really about. [ Edited by: creativenative 2013-07-29 17:36 ] |
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Bora Boris
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Mon, Jul 29, 2013 8:11 PM
Thanks for posting Black Widow, I was a huge Teresa Russell fan in the 80's. When she gets to Hawaii in that film the guy she marries has a very cool house. It's also always fun to see James Hong. He should have a star. |
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Fri, Aug 2, 2013 6:07 PM
Agreed Hong was in tons of good films, mostly playing the same Chinese immigrant character. Most people don't know he's from Minnesota. Got to meet him a couple times. He still looks 60 after the last 40 years. Should of asked him what he was drinking. Maybe his star should be that kung fu throwing star :). |
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Fri, Aug 2, 2013 6:21 PM
He shall always be "Lo Pan" to me... |