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the Big Stone Head thread!
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Sun, Jul 15, 2012 3:45 PM
Very cool! |
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Mon, Jul 16, 2012 7:35 AM
WHoaaa! Time to go to the beach, I say! |
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Mon, Jul 16, 2012 12:18 PM
THAT... Is awesome! Of course, I'm only about 2200 miles away. Dang. Great pic. Thanks for posting! |
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Mon, Jul 16, 2012 12:24 PM
Unfortunately the Moais have already been trucked away as shown in this video. :( |
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Mon, Jul 16, 2012 1:01 PM
That's hilarious - they didn't weigh more than a couple hundred pounds, and they fit perfectly into the back of the trucks. Now I wonder what warehouse they ended up in and where they will show up again in the future? Wait - I have an idea -- Rent-A-Moai! |
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Sat, Jul 21, 2012 10:35 AM
Hey those Venice Beach Moai (above) look like the "Bronson Moai" (below) in Boris's recent Tiki-Kate post. C.P. Three Prop House ?? Edit - Or maybe not. The scale of the Venice Beach Moai seem twice as large now that I look closely. [ Edited by: JOHN-O 2012-07-21 10:38 ] |
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Sat, Jul 21, 2012 12:59 PM
Wow, I'm glad I didn't miss this post. Wendy |
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Mon, Jul 23, 2012 3:38 PM
I'm new to TC and just read through this thread for the first time. I can't wait to read the BSH book. Easter Island and it's moai top the list of things evocative and exotic for my psyche. I had been thinking all day long today about cultural expropriation after watching authentic Polynesian related videos on you tube last night and weighing it against all the TC exposure feeding my interest in poly-pop, exotica lounge music, and yearning for a tiki bar of my own. As I get ready to make some tiki sculpture, I need to address the subject of cultural exploitation or expropriation generally. Do we do that here? Today I saw a very nice primitive sculpture from East Timor for sale for $125. What can it mean? |
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Fri, Jul 27, 2012 10:35 AM
Crazy Al's succinct comment speaks volumes (pun intended). As a bibliophile, bookseller and tikiphile let me be the first to state the obvious, which is that "eBooks,""iBooks" and any other vowel-prefaced artifacts are not books. They are bits of digital information, but they are not books. They may contain digital text, information and images, but they are not books. And that's why I haven't purchased one: I want a real book for my investment and my bookshelf. I don't give a half-a-damn about the author's or anyone else's political queasiness about the Rapa Nui (or trees either, for all that): the political history is all but irrelevant to Tiki culture, and cultural guilt is anathema to Tiki culture. Did the Europeans, the Chileans or the missionaries compel the natives to cut down every last tree? Human beings can do incredibly dumb things to themselves, no matter where they're from or what color their skin is, so let's put the kibosh on the bashing of the white devils, what ho? [ Edited by: White Devil 2012-07-27 10:37 ] |
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Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:42 PM
Aloha, On 2012-07-27 10:35, White Devil wrote:
In response, first off, LET me state the the obvious... I love books and own many. I love the smell of a new (as well as second hand) book. I love the sound when you first open it. I enjoy reading and thinking while I turn pages. I enjoy the weight as well as the contents. However, I disagree with your statement that I-Books and E-Books are not books. It's the information contained within, not the wrapping surrounding it, that defines 'BIG STONE HEAD' as a "Book." It was also important to me that "Waikiki Tiki" was produced on RECYCLED material and will some day (I hope) additionally also have an electronic version. I love 'Big Stone Head,' and applaud James for creating a wonderful project that has many incredible, previously unseen images as well as a very fair and balanced view of his subject; the Moai's journey from cultural artifact to pop culture. But there is also an important lesson lying just below the surface here, that James brings to light about the Rapa Nui that goes far deeper than politics. It's a story about our fragile resources and the perils of isolation on this Island Earth. Support the hard working author who is producing quality, be it Tiki or otherwise. As a PDF, you do have the option to PRINT it out on the finest paper available to you and have it bound. I suggest you do. I do not think you will be sorry of having made the investment. Dinner and a movie costs far more. Get back to me after you have read 'Big Stone Head.' You won't find this content anywhere else, so to cheat yourself by not reading it, is a shame... best, Phillip |
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Sat, Jul 28, 2012 9:27 AM
First, let me iterate that my comments intend no slighting of any author’s scholarship and work: I’ve socialized with James and know that he’s a preeminent contributor to the Tiki revival. My objections here have to do with both the semantics and substance of revisionist viewpoints on publishing, and since Bigbrotiki (among others) goes to such lengths to preserve the accuracy of tiki designations in this venue, I feel a responsibility to follow suit. I will reiterate that a .pdf file on a thumb drive is no more a book than Facebook is a book. I sell books professionally, and it’s not difficult for me or anyone else who’s ever handled a real book to tell the difference between a digitized scrolling manuscript and a professionally-bound and printed book. Reading (or perhaps watching) text on a portable flat screen is something that most of us associate with free online content, but even those of us who manage to find some aesthetic appreciation for curling up in bed with a portable reading device are still only using streamlined office equipment. Your downloaded digital text may provide information and entertainment, but it’s not a book: it’s a bunch of ones and zeros that your piece of office equipment decodes and encodes. And though you may elect to print it out on paper, it still won’t become a book until you have it professionally bound between two physical covers. Though written language predated the mass publishing of it, the handwritten proliferation of written language collections (scrolls, cuneiform and later books) is historically approximate to the flowering of human thought and language. From what I see today online and in texting, the advent of digitized communication will usher in the destruction of language. With the low standards of government-established education and the relative inexperience of the youth-dominated digital realm, what we’re currently experiencing is somewhat analogous to handing a ray-gun to a chimp. I’m sure there’s much value to be gleaned from digital manuscript texts, regardless of what medium they’re stored on, but unless they qualify as books, both as a consumer and a dealer, I’m not going to invest in an artifact that’s not both inert and re-sellable. For my personal tastes, paying for a flat screen readout has as much appeal as reading transparencies on an overhead projector. From what I’ve read on comics blogs, the majority of image-obsessed comics fans have the same opinion about digital comics. This is not to say that digitized content doesn’t have a future in the market: it undoubtedly does and will, but it’s important that the term “book” not be abused in the desire to describe something that is anything but a book. The proliferation of language and thought was the second-most significant cultural innovation in our history, following the acquisition of fire. It should not be viewed as being unimportantly mutable to the level of meaninglessness: it is the very definition of meaning. And don’t let the asinine smugness of Wired magazine persuade you otherwise. A ceramic mug with the word “tiki” printed on it is not a tiki mug as we define it, and a digital photo of a tiki mug uploaded, emailed, downloaded, decoded and viewed on your e-reader is neither a tiki mug nor a book. Now as to the intricacies of who did what to whom historically, there are literally tons of (real) books out here that will give you one view or another, depending upon how PC you care to be. I like reading about James Cook’s travels and adventures, but I don’t care one bit about how he’s treated in the current textbooks from the Cook Islands or anywhere else. It seems to me that Thor Heyerdahl and other explorers did a lot more toward preserving and celebrating the physical arts and traditions of the places he visited than the aborigines who gave away or sold their own culture’s manufactures. I don’t care for the didactic, punitive wagging finger of historic revisionism that tells me that my forebears should have done things differently, especially when the owner of that wagging finger has done little more in his or her life than parrot someone else’s ideas they read in (real) books or online. Again, that’s not a disrespect of anyone or any group: it’s pointing out a certain element of hypocrisy in what passes for modern thought. So to one and all, I say again, don’t take this criticism personally: it’s not meant to be. I own all of James’ (real) books (which are inscribed: another shortcoming of digital texts), and will buy each and every future book he manages to publish. Those real books will have real pages with real ink on them, and will be bound with real glue or thread, and will be professionally (if mechanically) contained between printed covers. I may or may not concur with the viewpoint expressed within, but if it displeases me too much I can resell it in the real book market. I won’t be the least bit troubled about the number of trees that went to pulp for my reading pleasure or displeasure, because I live in a state and a region which has no lack of this renewable resource. In fact the only part of the state uncivilized enough to cut down most of its trees is the state capital of Atlanta, so for now let that serve as object lesson about who’s more civilized than whom. |
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Sat, Jul 28, 2012 11:41 AM
Well, book or not, and with respect to all, I'm downloading that delightful tome! I just downloaded and had a quick look at the "book." It looks good. There are lots of clear, sharp images, the writing is witty and concise. It's nicely designed and, despite its digital nature, it has a nice booky vibe about it. No, it will not gain value as a collectible over time, but it will give me pleasure and knowledge. My Kindle seems pleased to have it on board. [ Edited by: KokoKele 2012-07-28 11:57 ] |
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Tue, Dec 4, 2012 6:01 PM
BIG STONE HEAD [ Edited by: Phillip Roberts 2012-12-04 18:02 ] |
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Sabu The Coconut Boy
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Thu, Dec 13, 2012 9:51 PM
From a 1959 travelogue book titled "Rogues and Raiders" by Everild Young and Kjeld Helweg-Larsen. |
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Sat, Jan 5, 2013 3:30 PM
Thought I should also post this in this thread. A cool 8X10 of that Moai in NY from November 1968. Nice arty shot for a newspaper! From the back: "Big Head Massive, five-ton head from |
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Sat, Jan 5, 2013 8:12 PM
..not in the marketplace thread? ~ I booked one download for myself - don't regret it :wink: [ Edited by: Holler Waller 2013-01-14 04:33 ] |
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Sat, Mar 22, 2014 5:22 PM
The LAST Big Stone Head tiki mug is now on Ebay. After this auction, all 150 of them will be sold out, and this mug will be globally unavailable forever. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=291108537268 |
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Mon, Sep 15, 2014 3:46 PM
Beijing. |