Tiki Central / Collecting Tiki
Trader Vic's Spoon?
Pages: 1 15 replies
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Mon, Sep 9, 2013 4:15 PM
Hi all, I picked up a silver spoon online as it was pretty fascinating to see - a solid silver condiment spoon, about 4" long, with both a cast Trader Vic's tiki and inscribed for the same on the reverse of the handle (pics below). I've seen (online) regular silverplate flatware with Trader Vic's name stamped on it, but never what was a custom job in sterling. There seem to be two real possibilities for it - one, it's a very deluxe souvenir spoon sold at Vic's in the 1950s or thereabouts or, two, it is part of some deluxe serving set for VIPs, as I am having a hard time imagining custom sterling silver being used for general restaurant service (as it would disappear in a flash!). Anyone seen anything like this spoon? Thanks, |
UT
uncle trav
Posted
posted
on
Mon, Sep 9, 2013 5:24 PM
Very cool find. One thing we forget sometime is that Trader Vic's was a very classy joint back in the day. Both |
N''
nui 'umi 'umi
Posted
posted
on
Mon, Sep 9, 2013 8:18 PM
Very nice GK. Mahalo for sharing. |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Mon, Sep 9, 2013 9:58 PM
Hi Trav, I have serious doubts about the use of sterling at the buffet, as even the classy joints like the Four Seasons, Waldorf-Astoria, Delmonico's and the like used silverplate for both their serving pieces and table flatware. Several silver companies had special divisions devoted to producing heavily-plated silverware just for the restaurant and travel industries. Both International Silver and Oneida had divisions which produced silverplated wares for TV's, as a serving piece by the former sold on eBay earlier this year and this set of flatware is on auction now: Neither are in any way tiki or custom; as in about 99 in 100 cases; the silverplated wares were just stock and often boring designs imprinted with the restaurant name. Custom silverplate designs were extremely rare and included only a few restaurants like the Four Seasons, which has a pretty illustrious design history in its own right. Custom solid silver? I can't think of a single restaurant in the last half century-plus that had custom-designed sterling serving flatware or serving pieces. Since no other solid silver flatware of this design seem to have surfaced, it must have been a very limited production, hence my thought it was for a VIP dining room or a more pricey souvenir of a limited run. The fact there is no manufacturer's mark leads me to believe a smaller silver studio produced it rather than one of the bigger aforementioned firms. It's a definite mystery! If a bigger serving spoon or fork were to surface with this design, that would at least challenge the souvenir idea. Ah, well, maybe something will pop up. Now I'm dreaming of finding a sterling silver punch bowl with tiki eyes studded with emeralds... One can dream... GK |
K
komohana
Posted
posted
on
Mon, Sep 9, 2013 11:20 PM
A charming piece for sure. Perhaps a third possibility, the TV equivalent of a "gold watch", commissioned as a parting gift for an esteemed employee? [ Edited by: komohana 2013-09-10 03:54 ] |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Mon, Sep 9, 2013 11:37 PM
That is a really interesting idea. It might make sense for both the possible rarity and the fact the Trader Vic's mark is on the underside. While the "hidden" name is not that unusual for restaurant silverplated flatware, it seems more likely that the Trader Vic's name would have been prominent and on the top of the spoon if it were a souvenir. As an "inside" special gift, "Trader Vic's" mark could take a back seat to the tiki motif on the front. And a small "silver spoon," aside from its more obvious association as a baby gift, does nicely represent the food service industry. The only thing I might expect would be the recipient's name or initials on it too. GK |
T
tikicoma
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Sep 10, 2013 12:16 AM
I wonder if it's a wine tasting spoon? |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Sep 10, 2013 7:58 AM
Compared to other tasting spoons, the bowl seems too small for that purpose. GK |
UT
uncle trav
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Sep 10, 2013 3:57 PM
It could be a mustard spoon judging by the shape and size. |
T
TropicDrinkBoy
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Sep 10, 2013 5:12 PM
Queen Elizabeth dined at the original San Francisco Trader Vic's location in 1983 but it was a last minute arrangement so I know they didn't have time to purchase special silverware for the occasion! |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Tue, Sep 10, 2013 9:41 PM
Trav, yep, the seller sold it as a mustard spoon and it makes sense for the size too. As to Queen Elizabeth, that's a cool footnote. I'd love to see a pic of her drinking from a rum keg! GK |
T
TropicDrinkBoy
Posted
posted
on
Wed, Sep 11, 2013 12:15 AM
I've been told the Queen was served a Plymouth Martini and Trader Vic delicacies including Beef Cho Cho, a flaming favorite of mine! |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Wed, Sep 11, 2013 10:05 AM
Cool! I was thinking about the tiki on the spoon and wondering if anyone has seen any sterling TV's cufflinks of this design. The size seems right, and if whatever company made this spoon had a cast for cufflinks, they could have easily reused it for the spoon. I thought about this as I see there are old sterling silver TV's cufflinks around, but none seem to have tiki designs. But it's the only other thing in sterling I know of associated with TV's. GK |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Wed, Sep 11, 2013 10:05 AM
Cool! I was thinking about the tiki on the spoon and wondering if anyone has seen any sterling TV's cufflinks of this design. The size seems right, and if whatever company made this spoon had a cast for cufflinks, they could have easily reused it for the spoon. I thought about this as I see there are old sterling silver TV's cufflinks around, but none seem to have tiki designs. But it's the only other thing in sterling I know of associated with TV's. GK |
T
TikiTacky
Posted
posted
on
Wed, Sep 11, 2013 11:48 AM
This was the closest I could find, but it's not the same: http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?topic=22872&forum=5&vpost=292855 |
GK
Grand Kahu
Posted
posted
on
Thu, Sep 19, 2013 10:03 AM
Some lucky fellow (not me) just got these cufflinks on eBay, which are a pretty close match, if not exact. They look gold plated and marked Trader Vic's on the underside of their bases. Grand Kahu Tied by my Mai Tai... [ Edited by: Grand Kahu 2013-09-19 10:06 ] |
Pages: 1 15 replies