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Prometheus, WTF you say?
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Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:14 PM
What did you think of Prometheus (Warning MAJOR SPOILERS) if you have not seen the movie you may want to skip Prometheus has a very dense “Religious & Mythological “ subtext, but is so ambiguous in execution What we get instead of a solid narrative & characterization is just symbolism, to me that is just lazy writing. At first viewing there are a lot of story beats that make no sense in the overall plot, but in review For example the planet the mission goes to is “LV 223” "Say to them: 'For the generations to come, if any of your descendants is ceremonially unclean and yet comes near the sacred offerings that the Israelites consecrate to the LORD, that person must be cut off from my presence. I am the LORD.” Now we have an idea of the motivations of the Alien “Engineers” the team discovers Ridley Scott has been quoted to a major plot point that was to be used, but does not show up in any obvious context in the movie “Jesus was an Alien” I guess they lost their nerve in making it an actual plot point instead of burying it in symbolism. A main plot point made in the movie, something happened to the Alien Engineers on LV223 The Alien “Engineer” depicted in the opening of the movie is literally “Prometheus/God” MAJOR SPOLIER: The main character Elisabeth Shaw can’t have children but is impregnated 'And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.' A barren woman called Elizabeth, made pregnant by 'God'? So a movie about our creators being Aliens, We show our appreciation by killing their emissary “Jesus” Sorry about all the religious content but I am just shining a little light on some of the less obvious plot points. |
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Tue, Jun 12, 2012 7:59 PM
I can't remember another movie that I was so looking forward to and being left so disappointed. :( They should have just had Charlize Theron strip down to her underpants and point the flamethrower towards the rest of the irritating cast. :) And Horror/Sci-Fi as Jesus allegory?? It was done better in "The Day the Earth Stood Still". And even better yet in "Bride of Frankenstein"... |
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Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:20 PM
Bottom line, All the subtext still does not make a satisfying story Damon Lindelof writer of Prometheus & the TV show "Lost" But what Prometheus did do so well (And to be fair to the movie) was in the production end, The Cinematography, Art Design But if your going to make a movie about Alien Gods & Alien Jesus, Have some balls & go for it, big time John "The Day the Earth stood still" did it right, Love that movie! [ Edited by: Atomic Tiki Punk 2012-06-12 20:23 ] |
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Tue, Jun 12, 2012 8:46 PM
Yeah but don't you think the cinematography, art design & staging was way better in the now 33-year old "Alien" ?? One of my favorite scenes in the original was the exploration of the alien ship (a la "Planet of the Vampires"). The way that "Prometheus" now puts that scene into context really ruins the mystery and imagination of the original. :( Please oh please let's not make a "Blade Runner" sequel !! |
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Tue, Jun 12, 2012 9:52 PM
Well considering the much lower budget & how important setting a tone & atmosphere was on Alien, you may be right. Also I am so bored of the Faith vs Science concept in modern Science Fiction film |
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Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:06 AM
Would you consider "2001: A Space Odyssey" as part of that genre? I really loved that film. :)
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Wed, Jun 13, 2012 9:06 AM
When Alien was in production, the Film Studio was trying to cut everything... cut the budget, cut the schedule, cut the budget some more. I think it forced everyone to get to the point and tell the story. Promtheus, however, had what was reported big piles of money thrown at it and that might be what is wrong with it... no reason to work for anything. It is like the spoiled brat of the movies because it didn't have to work for anything. |
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Wed, Jun 13, 2012 12:14 PM
John, 2001: A Space Odyssey's main theme of Alien contact,intervention & influence on our evolution But Arthur C. Clark was keen on keeping religion out of the 2001 plot, (Thank God!) intended pun! And for the record I did not hate the movie "Prometheus" as John did, I think it was entertaining |
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