Punk Rock, the way it was meant to be.... - Beyond Tiki

GT Geeky Tiki Member Las vegas Joined: Oct 15, 2002 Posts: 533	GT Geeky Tiki Posted posted on Thu, Aug 5, 2004 11:08 AM On 2004-08-04 17:31, tiki mick wrote: I don't like punk anymore (when I did, it was bands like shattered faith, tsol, fear..ect...the REAL shit!) Punk should not be happy, but it should very much be the soundtrack for urban decay, disenfranchised youth, and a reaction to the corporate world!! Hola, I must respectfully disagree. I always saw punk rock as a reaction to the bloated beast that popular music had become. Punk seemed more interested in making things simple again, but it was still song based - verse, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, chorus chorus - or something like that. No different than pop music before it. Punk also had a more DIY kinda thing. No symphonic orchestra required for a group to bang out what they wanted to say. I always thought that punk had very positive underpinnings, pointing out what was wrong. It was political and straightforward. Heck, you could dance to The Ramones and The Clash, even the Sex Pistols. :) Weird how the Sex Pistols were really just an invention of a corporate/style genius, but anyway... Punk was pissed off about where things were socially at the time, but didn't seem as 'fuck-all' as you describe. I get more of a Goth/Speed metal kinda feel from your take on punk. I just don't picture punk in its day as including white face make-up and Rocky Horror wardrobes. More like greasy hair and black 50's style motorcycle stuff, if anything. Then again, The New York Dolls seem kinda proto-punk and they certainly had fetish style clothes. Actually, the more I think about it, there was plenty of costuming in the punk era...it just struck me as a movement with more of an "anti" look more than a consistent fashion. That's a tough one. Anyway, I agree that Blink 182 and Green Day style punk doesn't seem to fit the vibe. Maybe Rancid? Bob Mould? It's hard to come up with good current examples that get any kind of airplay. Punk seems more vital at the subculture level than mainstream, anyway. Which is the best way, eh?

On 2004-08-04 17:31, tiki mick wrote:

I don't like punk anymore (when I did, it was bands like shattered faith, tsol, fear..ect...the REAL shit!)

Punk should not be happy, but it should very much be the soundtrack for urban decay, disenfranchised youth, and a reaction to the corporate world!!

Hola,

I must respectfully disagree.

I always saw punk rock as a reaction to the bloated beast that popular music had become.

Punk seemed more interested in making things simple again, but it was still song based - verse, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, chorus chorus - or something like that. No different than pop music before it.

Punk also had a more DIY kinda thing. No symphonic orchestra required for a group to bang out what they wanted to say.

I always thought that punk had very positive underpinnings, pointing out what was wrong. It was political and straightforward.

Heck, you could dance to The Ramones and The Clash, even the Sex Pistols. :)

Weird how the Sex Pistols were really just an invention of a corporate/style genius, but anyway...

Punk was pissed off about where things were socially at the time, but didn't seem as 'fuck-all' as you describe.

I get more of a Goth/Speed metal kinda feel from your take on punk.

I just don't picture punk in its day as including white face make-up and Rocky Horror wardrobes. More like greasy hair and black 50's style motorcycle stuff, if anything.

Then again, The New York Dolls seem kinda proto-punk and they certainly had fetish style clothes.

Actually, the more I think about it, there was plenty of costuming in the punk era...it just struck me as a movement with more of an "anti" look more than a consistent fashion.

That's a tough one.

Anyway, I agree that Blink 182 and Green Day style punk doesn't seem to fit the vibe.

Maybe Rancid? Bob Mould?

It's hard to come up with good current examples that get any kind of airplay.

Punk seems more vital at the subculture level than mainstream, anyway. Which is the best way, eh?

Post #106472 by Geeky Tiki on Thu, Aug 5, 2004 11:08 AM