Is it wrong to not want kids...? - Beyond Tiki

GT Geeky Tiki Member Las vegas Joined: Oct 15, 2002 Posts: 533	GT Geeky Tiki Posted posted on Tue, Aug 10, 2004 4:50 PM This thread is starting to raise some intriguing questions: I can relate to someone thinking he or she doesn't want to be a parent based on desire, experience, self-esteem, etc... However, I don't fully get the "I would have less fun" part. While I KNOW I wouldn't have had kids if they stayed a newborn for 30 years, getting through the first 1 1/2 years of pre-linguistic/not housebroken part is a short interval for all the fun that happens after. As soon as they can walk and talk, kids are not balls and chains, at all. Seeing the Enchanted Tiki Room through their eyes is probably closer to what Disney had in mind than seeing it through my own rum addled eyes! I apologize for my 'commercial' in favor of kids, it's really the "lack of fun" premise that caught my eye. Does the "avoidance of non-fun" extend to childless peoples' other life decisions as well? I'm all for fun, but if someone avoids a small period of hard work to advance in life because that period of time would be no fun, or is not willing to bypass some fun to save for a down payment on something, then I'd wonder what was up. Is there a point where hedonism ceases to be a virtue and becomes a vice? As a group, do the people who choose to avoid the "ball and chain" of parenting think that their time with their parents is a burden to their parents? Do they have a good time visiting with or travelling with their folks? Does the notion of having kids seem like a permanent "no fun" zero sum outcome? The padlock GIF and the kids=no fun posts reminds me of a line from some show I saw once where an artist told his wife he wanted a divorce bacause she was holding him back. She said, "Holding you back? I work so you can paint, I let you go out all night and sit at the coffee shop with your friends, I keep the house payment up, what on Earth am I holding you back from?" The artist answered, "From sleeping with other women." So, anyway, I vote kids=more fun. No offense meant to anyone, just looking at the two posts about fun or lack thereof.

This thread is starting to raise some intriguing questions:

I can relate to someone thinking he or she doesn't want to be a parent based on desire, experience, self-esteem, etc...

However, I don't fully get the "I would have less fun" part.

While I KNOW I wouldn't have had kids if they stayed a newborn for 30 years, getting through the first 1 1/2 years of pre-linguistic/not housebroken part is a short interval for all the fun that happens after.

As soon as they can walk and talk, kids are not balls and chains, at all. Seeing the Enchanted Tiki Room through their eyes is probably closer to what Disney had in mind than seeing it through my own rum addled eyes!

I apologize for my 'commercial' in favor of kids, it's really the "lack of fun" premise that caught my eye.

Does the "avoidance of non-fun" extend to childless peoples' other life decisions as well?

I'm all for fun, but if someone avoids a small period of hard work to advance in life because that period of time would be no fun, or is not willing to bypass some fun to save for a down payment on something, then I'd wonder what was up.

Is there a point where hedonism ceases to be a virtue and becomes a vice?

As a group, do the people who choose to avoid the "ball and chain" of parenting think that their time with their parents is a burden to their parents? Do they have a good time visiting with or travelling with their folks?
Does the notion of having kids seem like a permanent "no fun" zero sum outcome?

The padlock GIF and the kids=no fun posts reminds me of a line from some show I saw once where an artist told his wife he wanted a divorce bacause she was holding him back.

She said, "Holding you back? I work so you can paint, I let you go out all night and sit at the coffee shop with your friends, I keep the house payment up, what on Earth am I holding you back from?"

The artist answered, "From sleeping with other women."

So, anyway, I vote kids=more fun.

No offense meant to anyone, just looking at the two posts about fun or lack thereof.

Post #107587 by Geeky Tiki on Tue, Aug 10, 2004 4:50 PM