Punk Rock, the way it was meant to be.... - Beyond Tiki

D donhonyc Tiki Socialite The Quiet EAST Village Joined: Jan 13, 2003 Posts: 1197	D donhonyc Posted posted on Thu, Sep 30, 2004 11:46 AM As far as what Punk Rock is I'd say that the sum is larger than the parts. Punk Rock WAS, and I stress WAS, a movement that involved music, and attitude. As Dee Dee Ramone wrote in his biography 'Labotomy', rock music is not a 'civilized art form'. It came from and was invented by social outcasts. As somebody mentioned in an earlier post, the film 'Decline of Westen Civilization' is a great example of the punk culture. That culture DOES NOT exist anymore regardless of what anybody says. Just like all the wanna be hippies that go to see The Dead these days (without Jerry Garcia). Hello! Hippie days are OVER and have been over for a good 30 years now. People can call themselves whatever they want, but the times we live in do not involve or forward the unadulterated forms of these cultures. For the most part both of these movements were a reaction to the previous generations who were mostly baffled by what their kids were up to. The older generation now is the boomers that were hippies back in the day. They've sat through the counter-cultural movie, and they're not going to be so shocked by what kids do for escapism now. I see alot of displaced/misdirected youth hanging around the East Village, tatooed and pierced and looking like they're one of the members of Rancid. For lack of a better term I call them 'Squatters'. They literally have no place to go because culturally speaking there aren't rock clubs and shows, and things of that nature where they can be with their people. They're just hanging around, self conciously involved in their own escapist fantasy. I'm sure some of them honestly come from broken homes, etc. but I think for most it's just a put on. Now, are Blink-182 or Good Charlotte or Simple Plan punk rock? No fuckin' way!! Anybody who has a trailer backstage at the MTV Music Awards is NOT, NOT, NOT Punk. And I'll bet good money these guys have their catered little trailers at all the TV shows they play on. Their music is at best rooted in the punk sound, but these guys are as Punk as the Pope is Jewish. Another major offender is the god-awful Avril Lavigne. She, and all of these bands I mentioned basically picked up a copy of 'Punk Rock for Dummies' read it back to front and are now laughing all the way to the bank! (ya heard?)

As far as what Punk Rock is I'd say that the sum is larger than the parts. Punk Rock WAS, and I stress WAS, a movement that involved music, and attitude. As Dee Dee Ramone wrote in his biography 'Labotomy', rock music is not a 'civilized art form'. It came from and was invented by social outcasts. As somebody mentioned in an earlier post, the film 'Decline of Westen Civilization' is a great example of the punk culture. That culture DOES NOT exist anymore regardless of what anybody says. Just like all the wanna be hippies that go to see The Dead these days (without Jerry Garcia). Hello! Hippie days are OVER and have been over for a good 30 years now. People can call themselves whatever they want, but the times we live in do not involve or forward the unadulterated forms of these cultures.

For the most part both of these movements were a reaction to the previous generations who were mostly baffled by what their kids were up to. The older generation now is the boomers that were hippies back in the day. They've sat through the counter-cultural movie, and they're not going to be so shocked by what kids do for escapism now. I see alot of displaced/misdirected youth hanging around the East Village, tatooed and pierced and looking like they're one of the members of Rancid. For lack of a better term I call them 'Squatters'. They literally have no place to go because culturally speaking there aren't rock clubs and shows, and things of that nature where they can be with their people. They're just hanging around, self conciously involved in their own escapist fantasy. I'm sure some of them honestly come from broken homes, etc. but I think for most it's just a put on.

Now, are Blink-182 or Good Charlotte or Simple Plan punk rock? No fuckin' way!!
Anybody who has a trailer backstage at the MTV Music Awards is NOT, NOT, NOT Punk. And I'll bet good money these guys have their catered little trailers at all the TV shows they play on. Their music is at best rooted in the punk sound, but these guys are as Punk as the Pope is Jewish. Another major offender is the god-awful Avril Lavigne. She, and all of these bands I mentioned basically picked up a copy of 'Punk Rock for Dummies' read it back to front and are now laughing all the way to the bank!

(ya heard?)

Post #117262 by donhonyc on Thu, Sep 30, 2004 11:46 AM