Post #121672 by christiki295 on Mon, Oct 25, 2004 7:04 PM

On 2004-10-25 10:32, Tiki Rider wrote:

Youre right bigbro. you should know.
I hereby humble-ly withdraw my political question.
say Wasnt hitler a painter too?

Awchoo!

Tiki Rider:

Why are you trying to ridicule Big Bro Tiki?

He, if any among us, is deserving of a lot more respect.

It also weekens your somewhat valid points:

a. if all of the Hawaiian shoppers have overlooked the Walmart's actions, then shouldn't we as well? and

b. aren't the developers to blame, also?

I disagree with you on a.

I think we should always stand up for the protection of the tiki spirit, particularly as it relates to bones buried in the Hawaiian land.

This issue is bigger than Walmart.

Hawaiian bones and artifacts in general should be treated with the utmost dignity and respect, as they are the holder of Hawaiian mana (just the Father Damien burial story). Therefore, I must condemn SprawlMart's actions.

I agree with you on b.

Yes, the developers are to blame (and maybe the government if they failed to consider these strong cultural issues when approving this development).

This is also consitent with the issue of the Hawaiian artifact dispute, when a similar issue arose and I posted:

I thought that the state and the developers learned this lesson over the dispute regarding the location of the Ritz-Carlton. Unfortunately, not.

The so-ca1led Battle of the Bones erupted in the mid-1980s when a Ritz-Carlton hotel was proposed at Honokahua on a burial ground. Protests were so strong that in 1989 the planned hotel was moved back to preserve the sanctity of the site, and new laws were passed to prevent buildings from desecrating ancient Hawaiian sites.

http://www.tikicentral.com/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic=5643&forum=1&start=15

[ Edited by: christiki295 on 2004-10-25 19:15 ]

[ Edited by: christiki295 on 2004-10-25 19:25 ]