Post #22382 by BC-Da-Da on Sat, Feb 8, 2003 1:01 AM

Are you sure you mean bebop in the 40s, or more like the birth of "Cool" in the 50s?

Wasn't BIRTH OF THE COOL by Miles Davis 1948?

(Be)bop was just about as far from soothing as you could possibly get! That was the point: fast tempos, crazy melodies, rapid fire chord changes, etc. Either way, are you saying that's the first time anyone was cool? I don't get it.

The word soothing was meant to portray music as a slave for the urban soul, not a mystycal New Age experience or a Smooth Jazz record. I'm well aware of the cross-overs of Big Band and BeBop in the '40s, and BeBop and Cool Jazz in the '50s. Both BeBop and Cool were also still around in the '60s as Fushion and Free Jazz entered the game.

The thing is, the original buildings you're talking about were built for the same reasons and with the same intentions as the mini-malls of the 80s and beyond: to attract customers and run successful businesses. Styles change, but I don't really think business motivations do.

But my point wasn't about money, it was about style. In the '70s, the cool shit from the '60s was still around. There weren't twenty Wich Stand's or Ships restaurants. A lot of those buildings could not be re-created, and it was a shame to see that style torn down. It was torn down DUE to corporate takeover. Sure, all businesses have been about making money... never said otherwise. But, in the '70s, the richness of Los Angeles, which was a part of the collective adolescence of many, was torn down, and most of the Baby Boomers could care less by 1980. My parents included.

I wasn't alive in the 60s or earlier, but from all accounts I've heard, people liked money back then just as much as they do now, irrespective of any media influence. Seems to me that one difference is that even though people still like money, these days we're supposed to feel more guilty about it.

Nerd. :)