Where are we with the Tiki Gardens Memorial fund? - General Tiki

A Alnshely Member Oceanside CA Joined: Mar 24, 2002 Posts: 974	A Alnshely Posted posted on Mon, Feb 17, 2003 10:01 AM Chris y, You wrote "judging by the 70% default rate on pledges that mentality is apparently not conducive to undertaking a legitimate business endeavor. I don't know if that's being judgmental, but if you entered into a deal with someone and they only came up with 30% of the funding they had promised, you too would be seriously reticent about conducting any further business with them. As such we have respectfully declined to collaborate on further business dealings with groups or individuals who we had hoped would help see this project to fruition."."Thank you", is a more appropriate response. At no time did anyone claim TC would pay for the memorial in total. This is not a "Business Dealing"; this is charity, you need to understand that. Hanford allowed TGM to seek charitable contributions on our board. Pledges were made, money was collected. $625.00 is better than $0.00. You stated, "The company I work for has offered to pay for the construction of the statue in its entirety." Ask the guy writing the $5000.00 check if he wants our $625.00. I think anyone could guess his answer. Even if TC came up with the $1,500.00 pledged, you are still thousands short. You had hoped TC would "see this project to fruition". What does that mean? Are Otto and TC your only hope for contributions? On one hand you are funding a $5,000.00 Tiki and giving a presentation to the city council, on the other hand you ask for someone to step forward and "take responsibility". I don't understand, do you want out? I don't know who you are in regards to the memorial. I don't know the basic facts that Hanford outlined and I've read the threads. It is my understanding TC pledges are a $1,000.00 short, because of this, you don't want any of our money? If I needed $8,000.00 and a group offered $600.00 I would not cast dispersions and refuse to work with them. Your fundraising skills may need some polishing, tact, etiquette, patience and kindness. Despite your mastery of the English language, your well written argument and your righteous indignation, your comments read like a childish online Hissy fit. You "regrettably" informed us you will no longer be working with TC. That's fine with me. "Respectfully" Al < [ Edited by: alnshely on 2003-02-17 11:54 ]

Chris y,
You wrote "judging by the 70% default rate on pledges that mentality is apparently not conducive to undertaking a legitimate business endeavor. I don't know if that's being judgmental, but if you entered into a deal with someone and they only came up with 30% of the funding they had promised, you too would be seriously reticent about conducting any further business with them. As such we have respectfully declined to collaborate on further business dealings with groups or individuals who we had hoped would help see this project to fruition."."Thank you", is a more appropriate response. At no time did anyone claim TC would pay for the memorial in total. This is not a "Business Dealing"; this is charity, you need to understand that. Hanford allowed TGM to seek charitable contributions on our board. Pledges were made, money was collected. $625.00 is better than $0.00. You stated, "The company I work for has offered to pay for the construction of the statue in its entirety." Ask the guy writing the $5000.00 check if he wants our $625.00. I think anyone could guess his answer.

Even if TC came up with the $1,500.00 pledged, you are still thousands short. You had hoped TC would "see this project to fruition". What does that mean? Are Otto and TC your only hope for contributions? On one hand you are funding a $5,000.00 Tiki and giving a presentation to the city council, on the other hand you ask for someone to step forward and "take responsibility". I don't understand, do you want out? I don't know who you are in regards to the memorial. I don't know the basic facts that Hanford outlined and I've read the threads. It is my understanding TC pledges are a $1,000.00 short, because of this, you don't want any of our money? If I needed $8,000.00 and a group offered $600.00 I would not cast dispersions and refuse to work with them. Your fundraising skills may need some polishing, tact, etiquette, patience and kindness. Despite your mastery of the English language, your well written argument and your righteous indignation, your comments read like a childish online Hissy fit.

You "regrettably" informed us you will no longer be working with TC. That's fine with me.
"Respectfully"
Al

[ Edited by: alnshely on 2003-02-17 11:54 ]

Post #23263 by Alnshely on Mon, Feb 17, 2003 10:01 AM