Where are we with the Tiki Gardens Memorial fund? - General Tiki

K Kailuageoff Member Honolulu Lounge,Lewes, DE Joined: Mar 27, 2002 Posts: 1506	K Kailuageoff Posted posted on Wed, Feb 19, 2003 9:42 AM As a big cheerleader for this project, I feel like I need to explain my motives since some people seem to be so negative about how it has progressed (or not progressed), or even the fact that we attempted to do this in the first place. I live in Florida and a lot of our tiki culture has disappeared or is disappearing. I'm sure that's happening lots of other places and that's a damn shame. For me, this project was about calling some attention to our mid-century polynesian pop heritage in hopes of preserving more of what is left. Once this project was completed, I would have been happy to support another project in California, or Seattle or Atlanta or some other place. You see, I'm just not one to sit around bitching about things going wrong without trying to do something about it. TikiGardner's site was one of the first I came across when I got interested in tiki. He built that site out of his love for the place, and didn't charge anyone a dime to get educated and broaden their appreciation for tiki culture. To me that attitude was a kind of "Aloha spirit" that I sensed among many of the original members of the Tiki Central Yahoo site. Later , I confirmed that impression by meeting some very nice people from this site in my travels. Let's not forget that most of the time we have a great comunity here. That's the reason I felt we could get enough support for a project like this. Actually, I feel good that we raised $650 and would still like to see the money go to aiding the effort, even it it can't begin to pay for the whole thing. I have to admit I wasn't real happy when Chris came forward with his detailed plans on how the memorial project should be handled because it had the appearance of elbowing TikiGardner out of the way. I quickly realized, however, there was merit in what he was saying about the need to get organized and approach the authorities in a more professional manner. TikiGardner saw this too, and said so. Also, I took TikiGardener's comments at face value that he wanted the project to move ahead even if he couldn't be real involved. To blame TikiGardner for not being more supportive when he clearly communicated his wish to remain on the margins is unfair. Likewise, to blame Cy for being disorganized and not communicating properly is unfair. That's because he has been the most (only?) organized person in this whole endeavor, and because the whole function of a bulletin board is communication. If anyone had questions, all they had to do was ask publically or send an e-mail. Also, Hanford posted a ton of information on what was going on and why. If we didn't or couldn't communicate everything to everyone's satisfaction, oh well... [ Edited by: Kailuageoff on 2003-02-19 09:45 ]

As a big cheerleader for this project, I feel like I need to explain my motives since some people seem to be so negative about how it has progressed (or not progressed), or even the fact that we attempted to do this in the first place.

I live in Florida and a lot of our tiki culture has disappeared or is disappearing. I'm sure that's happening lots of other places and that's a damn shame. For me, this project was about calling some attention to our mid-century polynesian pop heritage in hopes of preserving more of what is left. Once this project was completed, I would have been happy to support another project in California, or Seattle or Atlanta or some other place. You see, I'm just not one to sit around bitching about things going wrong without trying to do something about it.
TikiGardner's site was one of the first I came across when I got interested in tiki. He built that site out of his love for the place, and didn't charge anyone a dime to get educated and broaden their appreciation for tiki culture. To me that attitude was a kind of "Aloha spirit" that I sensed among many of the original members of the Tiki Central Yahoo site. Later , I confirmed that impression by meeting some very nice people from this site in my travels. Let's not forget that most of the time we have a great comunity here. That's the reason I felt we could get enough support for a project like this. Actually, I feel good that we raised $650 and would still like to see the money go to aiding the effort, even it it can't begin to pay for the whole thing.
I have to admit I wasn't real happy when Chris came forward with his detailed plans on how the memorial project should be handled because it had the appearance of elbowing TikiGardner out of the way. I quickly realized, however, there was merit in what he was saying about the need to get organized and approach the authorities in a more professional manner. TikiGardner saw this too, and said so. Also, I took TikiGardener's comments at face value that he wanted the project to move ahead even if he couldn't be real involved. To blame TikiGardner for not being more supportive when he clearly communicated his wish to remain on the margins is unfair.
Likewise, to blame Cy for being disorganized and not communicating properly is unfair.
That's because he has been the most (only?) organized person in this whole endeavor, and because the whole function of a bulletin board is communication. If anyone had questions, all they had to do was ask publically or send an e-mail. Also, Hanford posted a ton of information on what was going on and why. If we didn't or couldn't communicate everything to everyone's satisfaction, oh well...

[ Edited by: Kailuageoff on 2003-02-19 09:45 ]

Post #23517 by Kailuageoff on Wed, Feb 19, 2003 9:42 AM