Post #246834 by DawnTiki on Fri, Aug 4, 2006 1:49 PM

On 2006-08-04 13:10, Rev. Griz wrote:

This attitude makes me uncomfortable. What you wrote, Dawn, comes across to me as being the kind of attitude that will discourage people from coming here and learning so that they DON'T commit the sin of mixing parrothead and tiki. (And really, why that's such a big deal, I don't know.
All the answers are here grasshopper, you can find what you you seek!

We are very much in danger of over-defining our cliques here like junior high students.)
Do what you want, mix what you want when you want...but be prepared for some TC folks (like myself) to disagree on the Buffet mixing with their TC. Whats the big deal aren't I allowed my opinion without being compared to being in a junior high school clique? tsk...tsk..tsk...

Furthermore, you talk about real tiki.
Nope, No I didn't....

One can make the argument that there's been no addition to real tiki for nearly a century since the last old traditional carvers in the south seas carved the last traditional god in wood for religious rather than commercial or even artistic reasons.
Wait, you say, I'm talking about the post WWII polynesian pop craze. Okay, well, there are several versions of that. Which is right and which is wrong? Is it only right if the recently carved tiki is a copy of a "real" historic tiki? Is it only right if the tiki mug is a vintage mug from an accepted "real" tiki place? Those two definitions rule out most of the artwork done by the people who post here.
What is "real" tiki, someone explain this to me?

Not my job, but I will tell you what it's isn't ... BUFFET!

Because if you don't, I live in fear of letting my Buffett roots influence a post and getting slapped down by those who have taken it upon themselves to define what tiki is for me.
This web site has a huge potential to educate people in the roots of the generic tropical themes that are so popular these days. If they come here and see people posting basically "you're all wrong but I'm not going to explain why" then

Then READ the forums, it's all here!

those folks will go away and keep doing what you don't want them to. That, of course, is the desire of snobs, to set themselves apart from the unwashed masses through the perceived superiority of secret knowledge, which is secret because it usually doesn't stand up to inspection.
If you've read my previous post...I have made no secret that I know less than most people here on poly pop's history or the current polynesian pop revival, but I have taken some time in my history on TC to try to edumacatate myself on the subject and not expect others to spoon feed me the smarts that everyone has access to, it's free for the taking. Just take the time and apply yourself.

The folks here are not snobs, the folks here are much better than that. Let's embrace the mission to educate and convert all those potential "real" tiki fanatics.

I have always hoped there is plenty of room here for everyone, and the Buffet argument has been going on as long as I've been visiting TC and I'm sure long, long before. This is a place where I hope we are free to say what we think when we think it without being reduced to name calling, thanks for the "Snob" referral. I've been compared to worse. So there you have it... I still hate Buffet! :lol:

[ Edited by: DawnTiki 2006-08-04 14:22 ]