That's just wrong! The un-Tiki thread: - General Tiki

K KuKuAhu Member Kahiki, Ohio Joined: Dec 23, 2002 Posts: 567	K KuKuAhu Posted posted on Sun, Aug 6, 2006 8:46 PM On 2006-08-05 14:23, The Granite Tiki wrote: I also don't think any one should be surprised or annoyed that the guy who wrote the book might tend to be a purist. It's the extremists who set the bar for everyone else. The very fact that he is here discussing it with us means his purism is a blessing, not a curse. Mmmkay.. as long as we are on this subject.. Here's the problem: by all accounts, Sven is a nice guy. Everybody that I know who knows him tells me so. I wouldn't know because I've never met him. Granite, if I address this to Sven directly now it will make more sense. The problem Sven, is not that you wrote the book. It is the near constant reminders here and the fact that it always reads as if tiki started with you penning the BOT. Many of us really love your book, and we bought it as soon as we could lay hands on a copy. But many of us grew up with tiki. We have been around it our entire lives. I've had a CocoJoes and HIP collection since I was about 5. So everytime you come on and tell us how you defined it as a style, it smacks of ownership. That is why DAVID hounds you. That is why Rodeo has his jockeys twisted, and I frankly get bored of reading it again and again. So back to Granite... I am glad Sven is such a purist. I really like his book. But I know (and have known) a shitty plywood parrothead bar from a Kahiki without a book to refer to or an author to ask. And TC is inundated by that sort of un-tiki because it has been mod-ed to death, the cheerleaders who "love all" rule, U-Mod is for fretful people who should stay off the internet, PC has become the rule here, there has been too much segregation (Cali-centric forums, Grand membership, the bilge being moved mess, and endless etceteras) and it has run off maybe 75% of its knowledgable and content providing users. When TC decides to begin catering to those who can and do provide solid content, and becomes about those users and not the Pockytiki's of the world, then it may come back to "the old days". So, in the spirit of Feelin' Zombified's effort, there's a bunch of what I happen to know a lot of folks would like to post here, but choose not to for fear of making waves. Ahu -edited for typos and nothing else- [ Edited by: KuKuAhu 2006-08-06 23:16 ]

On 2006-08-05 14:23, The Granite Tiki wrote:
I also don't think any one should be surprised or annoyed that the guy who wrote the book might tend to be a purist. It's the extremists who set the bar for everyone else. The very fact that he is here discussing it with us means his purism is a blessing, not a curse.

Mmmkay.. as long as we are on this subject..

Here's the problem: by all accounts, Sven is a nice guy. Everybody that I know who knows him tells me so. I wouldn't know because I've never met him.

Granite, if I address this to Sven directly now it will make more sense.

The problem Sven, is not that you wrote the book. It is the near constant reminders here and the fact that it always reads as if tiki started with you penning the BOT. Many of us really love your book, and we bought it as soon as we could lay hands on a copy. But many of us grew up with tiki. We have been around it our entire lives. I've had a CocoJoes and HIP collection since I was about 5. So everytime you come on and tell us how you defined it as a style, it smacks of ownership.

That is why DAVID hounds you. That is why Rodeo has his jockeys twisted, and I frankly get bored of reading it again and again.

So back to Granite... I am glad Sven is such a purist. I really like his book. But I know (and have known) a shitty plywood parrothead bar from a Kahiki without a book to refer to or an author to ask.

And TC is inundated by that sort of un-tiki because it has been mod-ed to death, the cheerleaders who "love all" rule, U-Mod is for fretful people who should stay off the internet, PC has become the rule here, there has been too much segregation (Cali-centric forums, Grand membership, the bilge being moved mess, and endless etceteras) and it has run off maybe 75% of its knowledgable and content providing users.

When TC decides to begin catering to those who can and do provide solid content, and becomes about those users and not the Pockytiki's of the world, then it may come back to "the old days".

So, in the spirit of Feelin' Zombified's effort, there's a bunch of what I happen to know a lot of folks would like to post here, but choose not to for fear of making waves.

Ahu

-edited for typos and nothing else-

[ Edited by: KuKuAhu 2006-08-06 23:16 ]

Post #247269 by KuKuAhu on Sun, Aug 6, 2006 8:46 PM