Post #247969 by GROG on Wed, Aug 9, 2006 8:48 PM

Since Part **A ** of this thread is about posting garish untiki atrocities, GROG post this:

And, since Part B is about helping to define what is "tiki appropriate" GROG would like to ask a few questions of bigbro. To make sure no one takes this the wrong way, GROG would like say this is sincere and not meant as sarcasm, humor, or any other nature than just sincere questions looking for straightforward answers, so please don't jump on GROG and kick the crap out of GROG because this is not meant in any other spirit than a straightforward question.

Sven,
The general public (not the "tiki-informed") could take the Book of Tiki (BOT), which most TC would consider the tiki bible, and they might look at it for reference as a start for building their own tik bar/ poly-pop paradise. And, you have it extensively illustrated with all sorts of images of tiki bars and restaurants, and etc., which possibly could lead them to believe these are examples of what is appropiately considered "tiki". You have stated that if it says tiki on it, it should have tiki in it. And there have been a number of times where people here have expressed what should be in a tiki bar to qualify it AS a tiki bar, particularly tikis, and not exclusively such items as bambooo, tapa, blowfish, netting, lahala, etc.

So, is this bar from pg24 of BOTconsidered a "tiki bar" JUST because it HAS tikis in it?

Because, if you take the tikis OUT......

.......there seems to be nothing else that really makes this a tiki bar as defined by what most people here on TC conisider a tiki bar.

On the other hand you do have a number of pictures, that at first glance most anybody would think, "Hey, a tiki bar!"
including these two photos from pages 37 and 67, (these are only 2 examples)

which either don't HAVE any tikis or just don't SHOW any of their tikis in these particular photos. The photo of Skipper Kents as well as a number of others have all the accoutrements of a tiki bar other than tikis (granted Skipper Kents name doesn't have tiki ON it so it doesn't have to have tikis IN it), but are they then still considered tiki bars/restaurants?
And, won't most of the public consider them as such since they ARE in the Book of Tiki?

The rest of TC is welcome to chime in as well, but please play nice, I didn't post this to be mean-spirited or humorous.
I'm just hoping this will contribute to helping define the nature of tiki as it pertains to tiki central and the art form as a whole.

[ Edited by: GROG 2006-08-09 20:53 ]