Tiki vs Buffett (and other musical questions) - General Tiki

E emspace Member Vancouver Joined: Jan 05, 2003 Posts: 879	E emspace Posted posted on Fri, Mar 7, 2003 1:22 PM Ah, music. It has the power to soothe the savage breast - and to cause little brain capillaries to explode, maybe even implode, with rage. Music is like politics and religion in some circles...ya just don't mess with other people's taste buds. Not that it's the only issue being raised in your comprehensive post jtiki. You stirred up a veritable hornet's nest, a compendium of potential bombshells. As a forum newbie but music oldie, I'll stick with that one point of contention. I think you put it best when you said "...seems to be the most effective for me to invoke the 'tiki frame of mind'." Well, that's all that matters in the end, isn't it? We are all wired differently, and our reponse to music is as subjective as anything we can experience. Take me: I no more associate surf guitars with "Tiki" than I do Beethoven. To me, surf was the sound of young wild kids, who definitely didn't participate in "Tiki lifestyle" - a completely different subculture belonging to their parents' generation. On the other hand, I know a lot of them were into the trappings of Hawaiiana in a HUGE way (how could you be a surfer and not?). I get that Tiki feeling from Hawaiian music, old and not-so-old, faux and genuine, and the ultra-cool of bossa nova. And a respectful tip of the hat to anyone who wants to say "what the hell does Rio de Janeiro have to do with Tiki?". Well, nuttin'! But that feeling... Anyway you'll note I wrote a provocative question in the Buffet thread. I hope you'll understand that as a musician and music lover, I only did it to see what makes people tick on this issue, not cuz I like being a s**t-disturber...I think :) aloha, em.

Ah, music. It has the power to soothe the savage breast - and to cause little brain capillaries to explode, maybe even implode, with rage. Music is like politics and religion in some circles...ya just don't mess with other people's taste buds.

Not that it's the only issue being raised in your comprehensive post jtiki. You stirred up a veritable hornet's nest, a compendium of potential bombshells. As a forum newbie but music oldie, I'll stick with that one point of contention. I think you put it best when you said "...seems to be the most effective for me to invoke the 'tiki frame of mind'." Well, that's all that matters in the end, isn't it? We are all wired differently, and our reponse to music is as subjective as anything we can experience.

Take me: I no more associate surf guitars with "Tiki" than I do Beethoven. To me, surf was the sound of young wild kids, who definitely didn't participate in "Tiki lifestyle" - a completely different subculture belonging to their parents' generation. On the other hand, I know a lot of them were into the trappings of Hawaiiana in a HUGE way (how could you be a surfer and not?). I get that Tiki feeling from Hawaiian music, old and not-so-old, faux and genuine, and the ultra-cool of bossa nova. And a respectful tip of the hat to anyone who wants to say "what the hell does Rio de Janeiro have to do with Tiki?". Well, nuttin'! But that feeling...

Anyway you'll note I wrote a provocative question in the Buffet thread. I hope you'll understand that as a musician and music lover, I only did it to see what makes people tick on this issue, not cuz I like being a s**t-disturber...I think :)

aloha,
em.

Post #25663 by emspace on Fri, Mar 7, 2003 1:22 PM