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H hewey Tiki Socialite Sydney, Australia Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 4283	H hewey Posted posted on Fri, Dec 29, 2006 3:55 PM Upfront one thing I didnt say that I should have acknowledged is none of the art I have produced attempts to deal with issues of this nature. I don't think that their is enough art talk here and at the same time, much art is being produced. Totally agree. I would suggest that very few tiki artists create work that challenges the audience to think beyond “oooh, that’s pretty”. -HEWEY I would totally not agree with this. I see new ideas born everyday here. Like in all fields, if I see only one new thing in the area that interest me each time I look, I'm happy. Okay, that came out wrong on my part. I agree that there is always new stuff that makes you think about quality of workmanship/technique etc. I meant beyond this stuff to more social questions like "why is the tiki depressed the bar is being torn down? What little things can I do to preserve poly pop culture, given that so much is being destroyed." I wasn't clear in saying that though. There are some artists here that go rather unnoticed as such, and they are the collectors themselves. I know several people with incredible collections that will give you that "what the hell am I looking at" feeling.. An interesting point captn, I hadn't considered the net effect of a poly pop collection as being art. And said clear enough :) I don't think Art is valued very highly here on Tiki Central. I think what is valued here is Craftsmanship. It seems [to me] that folks would rather see a perfectly executed copy of something they've seen before [ie. a Ku] than anything different. I agree that craftmanship is valued most highly, but I still think people get a kick out of new interpretations of traditional items. I got a PM from someone also saying they don't believe art is highly valued on TC. Their comment was that poly pop incorporates the usage of what were originally religous icons, of polynesian cultures which have already been highly impacted upon (think missionaries, colonialisation, and now the impacts of 'western' society via globalisation). So people are wary of using these icons to make social statements in art as a result.

Upfront one thing I didnt say that I should have acknowledged is none of the art I have produced attempts to deal with issues of this nature.

I don't think that their is enough art talk here and at the same time, much art is being produced.

Totally agree.

I would suggest that very few tiki artists create work that challenges the audience to think beyond “oooh, that’s pretty”. -HEWEY

I would totally not agree with this. I see new ideas born everyday here. Like in all fields, if I see only one new thing in the area that interest me each time I look, I'm happy.

Okay, that came out wrong on my part. I agree that there is always new stuff that makes you think about quality of workmanship/technique etc. I meant beyond this stuff to more social questions like "why is the tiki depressed the bar is being torn down? What little things can I do to preserve poly pop culture, given that so much is being destroyed." I wasn't clear in saying that though.

There are some artists here that go rather unnoticed as such, and they are the collectors themselves. I know several people with incredible collections that will give you that "what the hell am I looking at" feeling..

An interesting point captn, I hadn't considered the net effect of a poly pop collection as being art. And said clear enough :)

I don't think Art is valued very highly here on Tiki Central. I think what is valued here is Craftsmanship. It seems [to me] that folks would rather see a perfectly executed copy of something they've seen before [ie. a Ku] than anything different.

I agree that craftmanship is valued most highly, but I still think people get a kick out of new interpretations of traditional items.

I got a PM from someone also saying they don't believe art is highly valued on TC. Their comment was that poly pop incorporates the usage of what were originally religous icons, of polynesian cultures which have already been highly impacted upon (think missionaries, colonialisation, and now the impacts of 'western' society via globalisation). So people are wary of using these icons to make social statements in art as a result.

Post #275546 by hewey on Fri, Dec 29, 2006 3:55 PM