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Post #27747 by Tiki_Bong on Mon, Mar 24, 2003 9:24 AM

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On 2003-03-24 02:17, Thor wrote:
Tiki_Bong,

Where I disagree with you is your assumption that people around the world are voicing dissent in order to be "in vogue."

To assume that those who oppose the invasion of Iraq are any less serious than those who support it is insulting to all who desire a truly democratic process.

The list of people who fought for my freedom, by the way, does include many more than just soldiers who were sent into battle. It includes victims of prejudice like Balbir Singh Sodhi, Medgar Evers, and Matthew Shepard. It includes activists for workers' rights like Eugene Debs, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn and Cesar Chavez. It includes Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Martin Luther King, Jr., Eleanor Roosevelt and Sojourner Truth. It includes victims of a corrupt U.S. justice system like Nicola Sacco, Bartolomeo Vanzetti, Kevin Nigel Stanford and Roger Corman.

It also includes victims of oppression at the hands of the United States Government, from the Hawai'ian Kingdom to WWII Japanese-American internees to the 600 prisoners who are being refused access to lawyers in Guantanamo Bay.

Thor,

I would like to make a couple of points regarding your reply. First, I never stated an "assumption that people around the world...", any assumptions you made about my assumptions were incorrect. My implication would be U.S. citizens.

Second, your statement "To assume that those who oppose the invasion of Iraq are any less serious than those who support it is insulting to all who desire a truly democratic process" is a bit odd.

Let me see if I get your line of thought. You can exercise your right to free speech, but I cannot. Is this what your saying?

And lastly, you list a number of people you say have fought for "your freedom", such as Balbir Singh Sodhi, Medgar Evers, and Cesar Chavez. When I met you at Baxdog's party, you were as white as George Bush.

This statement is typical of the liberal guilt trip. It goes something like this "man, I'm white but I really want to be something else, because then I can get some sort of sympathy. I feel so guilty for not being of color".

And before you drag out liberal offensive measure number 2, let me cut you off at the pass, I'm not a racist, my wife is Asian.