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Post #29171 by TheMuggler on Thu, Apr 3, 2003 10:57 AM

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On 2003-04-03 10:33, bigbrotiki wrote:

True, true, but WHO decided that our freedom was truly at stake, and send those poor guys, for what reason, to what effect, ultimately?

And I do not get this whole "Because of the soldier you have freedom of speech" argument. So yes, we have that, so we should shut up if we doubt the logic behind this war?

This is quite true. Our soldiers are putting their lives on the line to defend our rights to support or denounce this war and to utilize all the freedoms our democracy affords us. To suggest that citizens shouldn't speak out against the war because they make the troops feel bad or they aren't supporting our troops is to completely misinterpret why they are soldiers in the first place.

US Soldiers deserve and receive nothing but the utmost respect from the vast majority of citizens -- both for and against this war.

I believe tikijaksin nailed the problem right on the head when he wrote:

I'm sure noone else here knows the entire reason why we are bombing the shit outta Iraq...

The problem is that we SHOULD know the entire reason why we are bombing Iraq. This is a democracy, after all, and our president is supposed to be accountable to the citizens of this country.

Here is a very revealing quote from W:

"I do not need to explain why I say things. — That's the interesting thing about being the President. — Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."

And that is from 60 Minutes, not some anti-war, ultra-liberal source like "The Nation." Here is the URL:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/17/60minutes/main529657.shtml

-Mike



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[ Edited by: TheMuggler on 2003-04-03 10:59 ]