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M MTKahuna Tiki Socialite LB to LA, CA Joined: Jun 11, 2003 Posts: 477	M MTKahuna Posted posted on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 8:33 PM On 2007-03-16 01:35, Dragonaotearoa wrote: Private Message I understand and have always taken the Maori pride and history in mind when creating my artwork. There are others on this site who flat out copy hisitoric Maori artifacts as closely as possible. Even I find that offensive. Please feel free to chop on them, but I have taken every opportunity NOT to copy any moko designs or other designs that the Maoris use as identity. I am a simple carver who finds great beauty in ancient NZ artwork. Our discussions with the Maori go well beyond what you will likely ever know, and we know we are not stepping on any toes here. -Gman Response I have tried to say that it was a mis-understanding repeatedly. This is Aggressive you bunch of gutter bred morons I think all i stood on was your ego. And it seems to be a big one. It is arrogant to say that discussions on moari art and culture are beyond me. My Uncle was one the south islands greatest master carver and he taught me art at his knees. My family are the most direct bloodlines to a line of chiefs in Ngai tahu. To be precise my great great grandfather was the last chief. Maori culture is personal i was brought up in it, surrounded by it and stood with my family when we fought the government for our land s and rights. you HAVE NO RIGHT or presumption to be a pathetic arrogant little prick and tell me that what you know of maori is beyond me. If you stood here and said that at me while in the presence of my whanau you would seriously have the crap beaten out of you. I am the eldest of my generation and have been expected to know my people, to understand and participate. Miriama Te Ahi Puia Furlong Dragonaotearoa, Your comments were very educational. Unfortunately, some individuals do not want to hear the truth about Polynesian culture. I feel that if you’re going to post your carvings then you should be man enough to withstand the critique/lesson. EGOs are very BIG on TC. Some will even go as far as stating that they discovered tiki themselves... Keep-up the lessons, MTK

On 2007-03-16 01:35, Dragonaotearoa wrote:
Private Message

I understand and have always taken the Maori pride and history in mind when creating my artwork. There are others on this site who flat out copy hisitoric Maori artifacts as closely as possible. Even I find that offensive. Please feel free to chop on them, but I have taken every opportunity NOT to copy any moko designs or other designs that the Maoris use as identity. I am a simple carver who finds great beauty in ancient NZ artwork. Our discussions with the Maori go well beyond what you will likely ever know, and we know we are not stepping on any toes here.

-Gman

Response
I have tried to say that it was a mis-understanding repeatedly.
This is Aggressive you bunch of gutter bred morons

I think all i stood on was your ego. And it seems to be a big one. It is arrogant to say that discussions on moari art and culture are beyond me. My Uncle was one the south islands greatest master carver and he taught me art at his knees. My family are the most direct bloodlines to a line of chiefs in Ngai tahu. To be precise my great great grandfather was the last chief. Maori culture is personal i was brought up in it, surrounded by it and stood with my family when we fought the government for our land s and rights. you HAVE NO RIGHT or presumption to be a pathetic arrogant little prick and tell me that what you know of maori is beyond me. If you stood here and said that at me while in the presence of my whanau you would seriously have the crap beaten out of you. I am the eldest of my generation and have been expected to know my people, to understand and participate.

Miriama Te Ahi Puia Furlong

Dragonaotearoa,
Your comments were very educational. Unfortunately, some individuals do not want to hear the truth about Polynesian culture.

I feel that if you’re going to post your carvings then you should be man enough to withstand the critique/lesson.

EGOs are very BIG on TC. Some will even go as far as stating that they discovered tiki themselves...

Keep-up the lessons,

MTK

Post #292953 by MTKahuna on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 8:33 PM