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On 2007-05-13 10:51, Tom Slick wrote:
On 2007-05-12 09:49, christiki295 wrote:
The new Trader Vic's Lounge offers an even better tiki experience than the proir location (yes - I said it).
I can honestly say that you should go to party city now and stock up on their tiki party favors since it is apparent that you have no clue what a tiki experience is from that statement you've just made above. I'm glad you enjoy the New "Neotiki" TVL, but to say its better than the original location is, tiki "blasphemy". I've read through your posts here in this thread alone, and I have yet to figure out which "side" are you on? Not that there is any sides per se, but your statements flip flop back and forth, seemingly directionless. One post you critiscize the TVL, then next praise it...?
People here are not mad that Trader Vic's opened up a Lounge inside the hotel, people are mad that we lost a "historical" landmark, and were not forewarned to the date. Historical in the sense of celebrities that patronized the original location had. Historical in the sense of the architectural geniuses that worked on it. Like it or not, there wouldn't have been a TVL if there wasn't already a TV, and to say the original location wasn't making profit is also incorrect based on the simple fact that they decided to install a TVL at the Hotel. They didn't add the Trader Vic's Lounge, just to appease a few disgruntled voices heard here on Tiki Central.
Some people are just angry at the fact in which Trader Vic's was closed ubruptly without warning, and no immediate statement saying that they had planned on moving it inside to the pool area. It was butchered, plain and simple...from the Public Relations at the Hilton, to the Corporate offices of Trader Vic's, both of which, pointed the finger at the other on April 29th. I called both offices that day, and one said to call the other and vice versa. April 30th, they finally got their shit together as far as being on the same page with each other by having a law representative write up the Press Release stating that the last day for Vic's was the 29th. Well I was there on the 29th, and they were NOT open, and infact, already dismantling the interior.
The bottom line is to all of this... you cannot compare apples to oranges,as the two locations are incomparible and are two completely different vibes catering to two different crowds. Wait until this Summer when they throw a DJ out on the poolside patio to play house music and hip hop...
It cliche's of the grandson who throws his only grandfather in a retirement home, as to only collect his grandfather's assets faster and take over the estate. No respect...
[ Edited by: Tom Slick 2007-05-13 10:55 ]
What he said.
There is now way to say that this is better than the original TV'S. I mean seriously, seriously how can anyone say that and mean it? Just looking at the photos shows a serious down-tiki-ing.
The argument about TV opening in Florida. If you take away the basket lamps the Dining area could pass for my local PF Changs. And thats not my idea of a Tiki Experience.
Tiki as a corporate entity is dying. Suffering at the hands of a generation of short attention span customers, and Eisner like CEO'S. The few remaing Tiki Temples that are family owned and operated will probably be gone when the one family member whose dream it is to run those places die. Cold and harsh, but true.
Support them while they are still around.
Heck even the owners at Damon's were kind enough to listen and at least be polite about having Tiki-philes put in their two cents worth.
And I still think that if you go to your family owned and operated Tiki Joints with some small Tiki Offering for them to add to the atmosphere, it shows them you dig their place.
An Edsel has a lot of chrome and nifty gadgets, but don't sell it to me as anyting but an Edsel.
[ Edited by: TikiGardener 2007-05-13 11:32 ]
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