Royal Hawaiian, Laguna Beach, CA (restaurant) - Locating Tiki

T tikipedia Member San Diego Joined: Aug 25, 2004 Posts: 491	T tikipedia Posted posted on Fri, Feb 15, 2008 8:55 PM On 2008-02-12 10:41, OC editor wrote: [T]here was no way a minor remodel could happen... So the choices were basically close it, level it or try to play the system a little. But there was really no practical way the much-loved Hawaiian would remain as was... So now many long-time lovers of the Hawaiian are boycotting, giving it up for dead, which is too bad. [ Edited by: OC editor 2008-02-12 10:46 ] This reminds me of the theory of Plato's boat (or is it Aristotle's boat?), which postulates that if you construct something original and then replace most of the parts over time, is the thing still the original entity or is it something completely new? This seems to be the same in the case of the Royal Hawaiian. If they removed just about everything, replaced it with new stuff, but kept the name and (updated) theme, then is it still the Royal Hawaiian? And at the risk of digressing, what is wrong with NIMBYism? If, for example, some toll road company wanted to run a 6 lane concrete freeway behind what was once pristine wilderness behind your home, is it bad that you are a NIMBY? I'm not bashing you OC, but I don't see NIMBYism as being a bad thing.

On 2008-02-12 10:41, OC editor wrote:
[T]here was no way a minor remodel could happen...

So the choices were basically close it, level it or try to play the system a little. But there was really no practical way the much-loved Hawaiian would remain as was...

So now many long-time lovers of the Hawaiian are boycotting, giving it up for dead, which is too bad.

[ Edited by: OC editor 2008-02-12 10:46 ]

This reminds me of the theory of Plato's boat (or is it Aristotle's boat?), which postulates that if you construct something original and then replace most of the parts over time, is the thing still the original entity or is it something completely new?

This seems to be the same in the case of the Royal Hawaiian. If they removed just about everything, replaced it with new stuff, but kept the name and (updated) theme, then is it still the Royal Hawaiian?

And at the risk of digressing, what is wrong with NIMBYism? If, for example, some toll road company wanted to run a 6 lane concrete freeway behind what was once pristine wilderness behind your home, is it bad that you are a NIMBY? I'm not bashing you OC, but I don't see NIMBYism as being a bad thing.

Post #361452 by tikipedia on Fri, Feb 15, 2008 8:55 PM