Post #373160 by Ojaitimo on Fri, Apr 11, 2008 2:10 PM

On 2008-04-08 10:25, Wildsville man wrote:

Did you find out any more Sinatra history about the Tropics and the Celler?

A lttle about Frank and the Rat Pack but nothing on the Cellar yet. I wrote a letter to the TNA to see what they know .

Wildsville Man as the first step you can find find at least ONE picture of the Cellar
What little I know of this place is thanks to Bigbro, Who lives 100 miles away. You are 10 feet away. You have no excuse! Dig?

I did hear why Peter Lawford became Persona Non Grata with the Rat Pack.
Frank helped JFK win the election by getting the Hollywood support.
Peter lawford was Kennedys brother in law and told Frank that Kennedy would visit, Frank built a new wing onto his home in Palm Springs and a helicopter pad for Kennedy who would never visit.
Kennedy avoided Frank, the Rat Pack avoided Lawford.

Ava Gardner and Frank have some interesting history in Palm Springs too.
Quote from Wikiapedia
Ava Gardner Soon after her arrival in Los Angeles, Gardner met fellow MGM contract player Mickey Rooney; they married on January 10, 1942 in Ballard, California. She was 19 years old. Gardner made several movies before 1946, but it wasn't until she starred in The Killers opposite Burt Lancaster, that she became known as a movie star and sex symbol. (Rooney and Gardner divorced in 1943, mainly because Rooney wouldn't give up his partying ways). Rooney later rhapsodized about Gardner's performance in bed, though upon hearing this Gardner retorted "Well, honey, he may have enjoyed the sex, but I sure as hell didn't." She once characterised their marriage as "Love Finds Andy Hardy".
Artie Shaw
Her second marriage was to jazz musician and band leader Artie Shaw, from 1945 to 1946 and it was even more disastrous than the first. It was during this marriage that Gardner began to drink and take refuge in therapy.
Frank Sinatra
Her third and last marriage (1951-1957) was to singer and actor Frank Sinatra.
Sinatra left his wife, Nancy, for Ava and their subsequent marriage made headlines. Sinatra was savaged by gossip columnists Hedda Hopper and Louella Parsons, the Hollywood establishment, and by his fans for leaving his "good wife" for this exotic femme fatale. His career suffered, while Ava's prospered -- the headlines only solidified her sexy screen siren image. The marriage to Sinatra was stormy -- passionate fighting, jealousy, at least one suicide attempt (by Sinatra), and numerous separations.
Gardner used her considerable clout to get Sinatra cast in his Oscar-winning role in From Here to Eternity (1953). That role and the award revitalized both Sinatra's acting and singing careers. Ava said of her relationship with Sinatra, "We were great in bed. It was usually on the way to the bidet when the trouble began." (This quote inspired the song "Frank and Ava" by Suzanne Vega.) During their marriage Ava became pregnant, but she had an abortion due to the volatility of her marriage. She had always wanted children, but she said years later, "We couldn't even take care of ourselves. How were we going to take care of a baby?" Gardner and Sinatra remained good friends for the rest of her life.
Howard Hughes
She began dating billionaire aviator Howard Hughes in the early to mid-1940's, a relationship that lasted into the 1950's. Despite his initial claims that she would be an easy catch, they were never intimate.
Ernest Hemingway
She divorced Sinatra in 1957 and headed to Spain where her friendship with famed writer Ernest Hemingway led to her becoming a fan of bullfighting and bullfighters such as Luis Miguel González, with whom she had a tempestuous affair. "It was a sort of madness, honey," she said later of the time.
Final years
After a lifetime of smoking, Gardner suffered from emphysema, in addition to an autoimmune disorder (which may have been lupus). After two strokes in 1986, which left her partially paralyzed and bedridden, Frank Sinatra paid the cost of her ($50,000) medical expenses. Her last words (to her housekeeper Carmen), were, "I'm so tired", before she died of pneumonia at the age of 67. After her death, one of Frank Sinatra's daughters found him slumped in his room, crying, and unable to speak. Ava was not only the love of his life but also the inspiration for one of his most personal and magical songs, "I Am a Fool to Want You", recorded after their separation. Reportedly, a lone black limousine parked behind the crowd of 500 mourners at Ava's funeral. No one exited the vehicle, but it was assumed that the anonymous mourner was indeed Frank Sinatra. A floral arrangement at Ava's graveside simply read: "With My Love, Francis".

I also found a reference to Eva Gardner having a fight with someone in Palm Springs one night.

I‘m not sure where this took place or with whom but Eva got angry at her date, stripped and dove into a pool in front of shocked guests.

Remember! At least one picture of the Cellar and a shrubbery.

Your turn Wildsville. Quid Pro Quo

[ Edited by: ojaitimo 2008-04-12 14:03 ]