Should Tiki Central be stripped of any hawaiiana discussions? - General Tiki

B bigbrotiki Tiki Socialite Tiki Island, above the Silverlake Joined: Mar 25, 2002 Posts: 11621	B bigbrotiki Posted posted on Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:18 PM On 2009-01-23 12:59, Cammo wrote: "That facet of the roots of Tiki style is a Wikipedia-type cliche that has been way overstated ..." Let's define "Hawaiiana", now: Wikipedia: Hawaiiana is a popular term of academia...etc." Bro, why are you denouncing Wikipedia as a second class repository of cliches and then quoting it as a defacto source of definitions? And - your entire later arguement about Hawaiiana dances around the fact that by far the most Tikis in the U.S. were made in Hawaii for the tourist trade. (It's still true to this day.) Why ignore Hawaiian made Tikis as a giant cultural influence on mainland culture? Because Wikipedia is too often taken as the SOLE truth. And just as I am not saying that its Pacific War veteran quote is UNTRUE, I am adding to the definition that Wikipedia has of "Hawaiiana" with my own, which I believe is much more to the point of the Hawaiiana we are discussing here. And where do I state "..the fact that by far the most Tikis in the U.S. were made in Hawaii for the tourist trade"? I am sorry, that can only be a misunderstanding, as all my work proves that, as far as artistic uniqueness, and sheer numbers go, there were undoubtedly more Tikis carved on the mainland in the mid-century.

On 2009-01-23 12:59, Cammo wrote:
*"That facet of the roots of Tiki style is a Wikipedia-type cliche that has been way overstated ..."

Let's define "Hawaiiana", now:
Wikipedia:
Hawaiiana is a popular term of academia...etc."*

Bro, why are you denouncing Wikipedia as a second class repository of cliches and then quoting it as a defacto source of definitions?

And - your entire later arguement about Hawaiiana dances around the fact that by far the most Tikis in the U.S. were made in Hawaii for the tourist trade. (It's still true to this day.) Why ignore Hawaiian made Tikis as a giant cultural influence on mainland culture?

Because Wikipedia is too often taken as the SOLE truth. And just as I am not saying that its Pacific War veteran quote is UNTRUE, I am adding to the definition that Wikipedia has of "Hawaiiana" with my own, which I believe is much more to the point of the Hawaiiana we are discussing here.

And where do I state "..the fact that by far the most Tikis in the U.S. were made in Hawaii for the tourist trade"? I am sorry, that can only be a misunderstanding, as all my work proves that, as far as artistic uniqueness, and sheer numbers go, there were undoubtedly more Tikis carved on the mainland in the mid-century.

Post #430237 by bigbrotiki on Fri, Jan 23, 2009 1:18 PM