Should Tiki Central be stripped of any hawaiiana discussions? - General Tiki

A aquarj Tiki Socialite SF bay area, CA Joined: Apr 02, 2002 Posts: 1125	A aquarj Posted posted on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27 PM I vote ignore it, don't lock it. When these same questions come up ad nauseum, I think it's great when someone just replies with links to previous similar or identical threads. The problem is that although that would be the rational end, it frequently is not. I think this is because the general subject area is bait for what many members (not just Sven) consider the core thrust of TC. Let's be clear, the following are not clever new insights. These have all appeared over and over, from different people... Take some comment from somewhere on TC, and melodramatically exaggerate it into some point that is obviously a strawman with no real relationship to any position held by anyone. Then either add it to one of the usual threads, or even pose it as a question in a new topic. Remark in some snippy way about Sven being too opinionated by virtue of his authorship. After getting ruffled feathers, post something to indicate standing up to THE MAN! There are endless examples of this... "I don't care what you all say, I'm going to decorate my home how I want to, not how you tell me too!" Or "I thought tiki was about fun and freedom from rules!" Or "Well I think I'll go somewhere else if this site is just a bunch of tiki police!" (substitute other terms like "hoity toities" for tiki police). Or "I'm tired of people telling me what I should like." Or "Tiki has to grow and expand its boundaries" - one of my favorites for its sheer meaninglessness. Or from this thread, "Polynesian antiquities are far more fascinating / I don't really care for the tiki pop culture." Ultimately, I don't understand the point of these. Will Sven and others who actually enjoy "Celebrating classic and modern Polynesian Pop" suddenly be swayed by these enlightening comments? No. So is it knowingly tilting at windmills, or just some kind of weird venting, or ...? Echoing MadDogMike - Sven commented very concisely about the purpose of elaborating on a concept of tiki for the purposes of discussions here on TC, "And if that distinction is not important to you, fine, have a ball, just don't get offended if I say it's not Tiki --remember, you don't care." Sven, I salute you for your perseverance. Sabu, I thought you had stated it well too, as did some others. Beyond that, there's very little sign that these counterpoints are actually leading anywhere. But that's no reason to lock it! -Randy

I vote ignore it, don't lock it.

When these same questions come up ad nauseum, I think it's great when someone just replies with links to previous similar or identical threads. The problem is that although that would be the rational end, it frequently is not. I think this is because the general subject area is bait for what many members (not just Sven) consider the core thrust of TC.

Let's be clear, the following are not clever new insights. These have all appeared over and over, from different people...

Take some comment from somewhere on TC, and melodramatically exaggerate it into some point that is obviously a strawman with no real relationship to any position held by anyone. Then either add it to one of the usual threads, or even pose it as a question in a new topic.
Remark in some snippy way about Sven being too opinionated by virtue of his authorship.
After getting ruffled feathers, post something to indicate standing up to THE MAN! There are endless examples of this... "I don't care what you all say, I'm going to decorate my home how I want to, not how you tell me too!" Or "I thought tiki was about fun and freedom from rules!" Or "Well I think I'll go somewhere else if this site is just a bunch of tiki police!" (substitute other terms like "hoity toities" for tiki police). Or "I'm tired of people telling me what I should like." Or "Tiki has to grow and expand its boundaries" - one of my favorites for its sheer meaninglessness. Or from this thread, "Polynesian antiquities are far more fascinating / I don't really care for the tiki pop culture."

Ultimately, I don't understand the point of these. Will Sven and others who actually enjoy "Celebrating classic and modern Polynesian Pop" suddenly be swayed by these enlightening comments? No. So is it knowingly tilting at windmills, or just some kind of weird venting, or ...?

Echoing MadDogMike - Sven commented very concisely about the purpose of elaborating on a concept of tiki for the purposes of discussions here on TC, "And if that distinction is not important to you, fine, have a ball, just don't get offended if I say it's not Tiki --remember, you don't care."

Sven, I salute you for your perseverance. Sabu, I thought you had stated it well too, as did some others. Beyond that, there's very little sign that these counterpoints are actually leading anywhere. But that's no reason to lock it!

-Randy

Post #431070 by aquarj on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 1:27 PM