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S squid Member Joined: Sep 30, 2002 Posts: 1462	S squid Posted posted on Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:09 AM WARNING: NOT FOR THE MUSICALLY MYOPIC Wow! Music outside the surfzotica box! Whodathunkit? I'm glad you kids are discussing this and maintaining civility! YAY!! BTD, Don't worry, I won't try to spoon feed you any prog. Trust me, it will cause you to have massive epileptic seizures. And I don't want to be responsible for that, heavens no. :) I will preface this entire rant with "I know what I like. It probably isn't what you like. There is no wrong or right here." I still derive great pleasure from certain "prog" bands. Lucas, perhaps you don't listen to much prog any more because you were only exposed to a tiny little section of the movement. A lot of late 70s - 80s "prog" was uber-mechanical in nature and lyrically dumbed down in an attempt to achieve commercial success. 1980s era UK, Yes, Genesis, Asia, although technically proficient, were the death knell for prog and its initial experimental nature. I never considered Rush to be prog. Using odd meters for the sake of using odd meters...ummmm....nope. Sorry. Dream Theatre...same bag. "Ice pick... meet forehead!" Just my personal take. I would suggest you check out some more jazzier or psych influenced prog ie: Soft Machine Egg Matching Mole Gong Hatfield and The North National Health Amon Duul II Henry Cow Curved Air Can (probably better classified as proto-trance) etc.... But I'm always game for Gentle Giant or Gryphon as well. The classically influenced stuff is OK, as long as it's got some emotion. I was fortunate enough to tour and record with Richard Sinclair in '93 and '94 and with Peter Bardens in the late '90s. Pete passed away in 2002 and I was honored to play with him at his last performance in 2001. If you're not familiar with Richard, I suggest either 2 Hatfield and The North albums, the Hatfield BBC tapes or his earlier work with Caravan. Rich's bass work on Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom is scary good too. As for Pete, any early Camel or his 1970 solo album. Richard is still scraping away in Italy, writing and performing wherever he can. A more gifted musician and generous man you will never meet. While Pete died damn near penniless, his devotion to his art never wavered. He wasn't in it for the money. He was an artist in the true sense of the word. And while many people didn't "get it" many of us did. At least those of us who cared to open our ears beyond the daily dreck shoved down our throats by the corporate media pigs. Thanks Pete. Oh shite! Did I just leave my prog closet door open???? White Devil, I'm always looking to discover new stuff so fire away.

WARNING: NOT FOR THE MUSICALLY MYOPIC

Wow! Music outside the surfzotica box! Whodathunkit? I'm glad you kids are discussing this and maintaining civility! YAY!!

BTD, Don't worry, I won't try to spoon feed you any prog. Trust me, it will cause you to have massive epileptic seizures. And I don't want to be responsible for that, heavens no. :)

I will preface this entire rant with "I know what I like. It probably isn't what you like. There is no wrong or right here."

I still derive great pleasure from certain "prog" bands. Lucas, perhaps you don't listen to much prog any more because you were only exposed to a tiny little section of the movement. A lot of late 70s - 80s "prog" was uber-mechanical in nature and lyrically dumbed down in an attempt to achieve commercial success. 1980s era UK, Yes, Genesis, Asia, although technically proficient, were the death knell for prog and its initial experimental nature.

I never considered Rush to be prog. Using odd meters for the sake of using odd meters...ummmm....nope. Sorry. Dream Theatre...same bag. "Ice pick... meet forehead!"

Just my personal take.

I would suggest you check out some more jazzier or psych influenced prog ie:
Soft Machine
Egg
Matching Mole
Gong
Hatfield and The North
National Health
Amon Duul II
Henry Cow
Curved Air
Can (probably better classified as proto-trance)
etc....

But I'm always game for Gentle Giant or Gryphon as well. The classically influenced stuff is OK, as long as it's got some emotion.

I was fortunate enough to tour and record with Richard Sinclair in '93 and '94 and with Peter Bardens in the late '90s. Pete passed away in 2002 and I was honored to play with him at his last performance in 2001.

If you're not familiar with Richard, I suggest either 2 Hatfield and The North albums, the Hatfield BBC tapes or his earlier work with Caravan. Rich's bass work on Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom is scary good too.

As for Pete, any early Camel or his 1970 solo album.

Richard is still scraping away in Italy, writing and performing wherever he can. A more gifted musician and generous man you will never meet.

While Pete died damn near penniless, his devotion to his art never wavered. He wasn't in it for the money. He was an artist in the true sense of the word. And while many people didn't "get it" many of us did. At least those of us who cared to open our ears beyond the daily dreck shoved down our throats by the corporate media pigs. Thanks Pete.

Oh shite! Did I just leave my prog closet door open????

White Devil, I'm always looking to discover new stuff so fire away.

Post #466578 by squid on Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:09 AM