Hawaii Five-O 2.0 - General Tiki

M molo Member Joined: Jun 01, 2010 Posts: 9	M molo Posted posted on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 7:27 PM On 2010-06-11 22:36, Donnabeach wrote: You are giving the theme far more credit, than the cast, Jack Lord's impact, the edgy script writing dealing with topics of the day, etc, etc. No, I'm giving it its due, nothing more, nothing less. And that opening theme had impact. In spades. What I think you're losing sight of is what exactly I'm referring to: what impacted and contributed toward the show's gaining a wider base early on, not what made the show outright (in all its splendid glory). It seems to me you're reading too much into what I'm stating. The things you've pointed to, likewise those which I have, are not mutually exclusive or negating. Where we differ comes down to the degree of impact of the opening theme (per Mort Stevens, with The Ventures pulling up the rear), not the gamut of variables involved -- of which there were many, all lending towards the show's ultimate success. It was surveyed back in the day that when folks had finally put the kids to bed, they could wind down and watch five-0 because of it's new later time slot and that's truly when it took off. Timing is everything, and even an awesome theme can't save you from that. Aloha :) That's every bit as simplistic a notion as the one you're dismissing re the theme prelude. I was still young back when the show first aired, and my parents didn't feel the need to scoot me off to bed. Besides, not every American household is laden with impressionable youngins. Beyond that, the show always ran in prime time hours between 8PM and 10 PM, depending on area and era. H5-0 was neither R or X rated. Gritty and sometimes edgy, sure. But it could meander towards the cornballish too, in sometimes equal parts (predicative on the script of course, and more so as time went on). In any case, its early viewing adoption did not hinge around a simple time slot adjustment alone imo, a la moving up to a later night position (though I agree it helped). Timing may count, but that alone cannot account for everything. No more than I would say the opening theme sequence, and subsequent chart action by the Ventures, accounts for the show's early success alone -- only that it created a big and - uh hum - well timed splash. [er, ok, maybe you have a point about timing after all :P]

On 2010-06-11 22:36, Donnabeach wrote:
You are giving the theme far more credit, than the cast, Jack Lord's impact, the edgy script writing dealing with topics of the day, etc, etc.

No, I'm giving it its due, nothing more, nothing less. And that opening theme had impact. In spades.

What I think you're losing sight of is what exactly I'm referring to: what impacted and contributed toward the show's gaining a wider base early on, not what made the show outright (in all its splendid glory). It seems to me you're reading too much into what I'm stating. The things you've pointed to, likewise those which I have, are not mutually exclusive or negating. Where we differ comes down to the degree of impact of the opening theme (per Mort Stevens, with The Ventures pulling up the rear), not the gamut of variables involved -- of which there were many, all lending towards the show's ultimate success.

It was surveyed back in the day that when folks had finally put the kids to bed, they could wind down and watch five-0 because of it's new later time slot and that's truly when it took off. Timing is everything, and even an awesome theme can't save you from that. Aloha :)

That's every bit as simplistic a notion as the one you're dismissing re the theme prelude. I was still young back when the show first aired, and my parents didn't feel the need to scoot me off to bed. Besides, not every American household is laden with impressionable youngins. Beyond that, the show always ran in prime time hours between 8PM and 10 PM, depending on area and era. H5-0 was neither R or X rated. Gritty and sometimes edgy, sure. But it could meander towards the cornballish too, in sometimes equal parts (predicative on the script of course, and more so as time went on).

In any case, its early viewing adoption did not hinge around a simple time slot adjustment alone imo, a la moving up to a later night position (though I agree it helped). Timing may count, but that alone cannot account for everything. No more than I would say the opening theme sequence, and subsequent chart action by the Ventures, accounts for the show's early success alone -- only that it created a big and - uh hum - well timed splash. [er, ok, maybe you have a point about timing after all :P]

Post #535876 by molo on Sat, Jun 12, 2010 7:27 PM